Suzuki 1972 GT750J Two-Stroke Question.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ACH, May 2, 2005.

  1. ACH

    ACH Guest

    The Suzuki 1972 GT750J Two-Stroke was the first Japanese water cooled
    motorcycle, two stroke or four stroke (Scott made a water cooled
    two stroke in the 1930's).

    Is the Suzuki 1972 GT750J Two-Stroke the largest production
    two stroke motorcycle made at being 750cc? Did anyone make a bike
    larger than 750cc except race bikes. (I've heard someone made a
    1000cc race bike but never made it into production for the public).

    My last question is why is it that most two strokes even models
    from the 1980's and 90's have a low milage between rebuilds (like
    20,000 to 30,000 miles) but the Suzuki GT750's usually get between
    90,000 and 100,000 miles before a rebuild. I've never heard of two
    strokes getting almost Goldwing like mileage from an engine. Is this
    true and how did they do this?
     
    ACH, May 2, 2005
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  2. Yamaha exhibited a liquid-cooled four-sylinder two-stroke 750 road bike
    but never put it into production. Obviously Kawasaki made a 750cc
    two-stroke as well. I've never heard of anything larger.
    It does? Nonsense.
    I've never heard of any GT750 doing the sort of mileage you suggest
    without needing some attenion. However, remember that the bike was, in
    two-stroke terms, very mildly tuned.

    250cc two-strokes of the era were knocking out 30bhp or close to it, and
    the GT750 made 70bhp or thereabouts. Also, the liquid cooling certainly
    helped.

    They were tough engines, but not as tough as you've been told.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 2, 2005
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  3. ACH

    Ace Guest

    Do they? They used to struggle to get a couple of thousand between
    blow-ups, if my mates back in the '70s were anything to go by.
    I guess that, as they were only making the same sort of power as the
    air-cooled kwak trips, the tolerances weren't that much lower than
    that, whereas later bikes would have used the fact of air-cooling to
    make everything a much tighter fit, IYSWIM.

    But flip wibble do, 'cos I'm making htis up as I go along :)

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    Ace, May 2, 2005
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  4. ACH

    ogden Guest

    ITYM later bikes would have used liquid cooling to use tighter
    tolerances, unless you know something I don't. (Which wouldn't
    be unusual)
     
    ogden, May 2, 2005
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  5. ACH

    Greybeard Guest

    Well, I had a GT750M, (L reg IIRC) and I done well over the 100K miles on
    it. Apart from regular decoking, and very regular plug changes, I had no
    major work done at all. I had it with just over the 1k on when I bought it
    from Coburn & Hughes in Haringey. Did all the servicing myself, (what there
    was of it!) and it would just run and run. Biggest problem I ever had, was
    battery/charging problems. Never did get that sorted 100%. Oh, and it never
    saw the inside of a garage, coz where my mum and dad lived we never had one.
    Only ever stood in the street, come rain, sun or snow.

    Shame Suzi finish isn't like that nowadays.
     
    Greybeard, May 2, 2005
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  6. Fair enough. There's always the exception. The owners' group goes into
    long detail about crank prolems...
    I remember them..... Slow-Burning Fuse, they were known as. Or Slow-Worm
    & Screws.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 3, 2005
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  7. ACH

    Greybeard Guest

    I remember there being issues about cranks, but I must admit to upping the
    oil injection a little [1] on mine to be safe. Hence the reason for many a
    clogged plug and loadza [2] of smoke when giving it the beans after a city
    trundle.

    Them be the ones ;o) also used to sell aeroplanes, out of Southend Airport
    IIRC?

    [1] Upped quite a bit akshually.
    [2] Like a smoke screen! The greenies would have a baby now if they saw my
    old kettle being given the beanz down the A10, long, long before the joy of
    Gatso's.
     
    Greybeard, May 3, 2005
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  8. ACH

    Ace Guest

    YT correctly.

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    Ace, May 3, 2005
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  9. ACH

    Lozzo Guest

    The Older Gentleman says...
    Ther number plate slogans used to read "I chose to use Coburn and
    Hughes".

    Round here one wag who had grief from them changed his with Lettraset
    to read "I chose to be abused by Coburn and Hughes"
     
    Lozzo, May 3, 2005
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  10. ACH

    Lozzo Guest

    Greybeard says...
    They'd take anything in part-exchange as well. You could take a TV,
    garden furniture, packet of cornflakes and even your dead granny's
    ashes in and they'd give you a few quid for them against a new bike.
     
    Lozzo, May 3, 2005
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  11. Indeed. I'd forgotten that.
    LOL
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 3, 2005
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  12. ACH

    Greybeard Guest

    Heh!

    That's dead right an' all. I'd forgotten about that.
    I paid my deposit with one of them LED watches that was all the craze at the
    time. All black, and you had press the button to see the time! IIRC it cost
    me about a tenner from the "new-on-the-block" Dixons. Got about fifty quid
    towards my deposit though.
     
    Greybeard, May 3, 2005
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  13. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    Bunch of Cunts. I was not amused by Coburn and Hughes.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 3, 2005
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  14. If it was a Sinclair Black Watch, it's probably worth ten times that
    now.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 4, 2005
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  15. ACH

    Greybeard Guest

    Nope, thank goodness it wasn't. but it was something similar. Funny how
    things turn round though.
     
    Greybeard, May 4, 2005
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  16. ACH

    Greybeard Guest

    I bought a number of bikes from them over the years. The main reason was
    that they where just down the road from my Dad's shop and I worked there
    most weekends.

    Found them be very helpful, but the workshop monkeys were shite!
     
    Greybeard, May 4, 2005
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  17. The Older Gentleman wrote
    Really?

    I must make plans to find a way into that corner of the loft.
     
    steve auvache, May 4, 2005
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