Suzuki 1972 GT750J Two-Stroke Question

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by ACH, May 2, 2005.

  1. ACH

    ACH Guest

    The Suzuki 1972 GT750J Two-Stroke was the first Japanese water cooled
    motorcycle, two stroke or four stroke (Scott made a water cooled
    two stroke in the 1930's).

    Is the Suzuki 1972 GT750J Two-Stroke the largest production
    two stroke motorcycle made at being 750cc? Did anyone make a bike
    larger than 750cc except race bikes. (I've heard someone made a
    1000cc race bike but never made it into production for the public).

    My last question is why is it that most two strokes even models
    from the 1980's and 90's have a low milage between rebuilds (like
    20,000 to 30,000 miles) but the Suzuki GT750's usually get between
    90,000 and 100,000 miles before a rebuild. I've never heard of two
    strokes getting almost Goldwing like mileage from an engine. Is this
    true and how did they do this?
     
    ACH, May 2, 2005
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    Smiley Guest

    Some outboard boat motors were 1000cc 2-strokes.
    I saw a v4 barrels once I think it was an evenrude(? don't know how to spell
    it).
    what RPM's does the 750 do. it might have something to
    do with piston speed, RPM and forces placed on the
    smaller parts.
     
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    moike Guest

    The scott started in 1910, and included a 1000cc model.

    Moike
     
    moike, May 2, 2005
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    Moike Guest

    Moike, May 3, 2005
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    Moike Guest

    There's not a lot thats fundamentally new.

    Did you notice the V-twin Bantam further down?

    ;-)

    Moike
     
    Moike, May 3, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Sorry to tell you this Clem, but BSA made the triple first, and it was
    called the Rocket 3. That cheap Triumph copy with the vertical motor was
    called a Trident.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, May 3, 2005
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    Boxer Guest

    This is the pre-war superbike which was the brainchild of Bill Cull. At
    986cc the three-cylinder two-stroke produced 40bhp and propelled the monster
    to just short of the ton. quite an achievement, but one which sadly never
    went into large scale production.



    A little know fact when this bike was dropped from production, the designer
    Bill Cull was so depressed the term Culled was coined to describe his
    condition. The term survives to this day.



    Boxer
     
    Boxer, May 3, 2005
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    Boxer Guest

    Clem wrong again, now there's a surprise :)

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, May 3, 2005
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    Moike Guest

    Not with four l's anyway!

    Moike
     
    Moike, May 3, 2005
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    Bada Guest

    Suzuki used, and possibly invented, a lubrication system for two strokes
    which was part of the reason for the long engine life of its two-stroke
    bikes. The GT750 ran an automatic fuel oil mixing system but with one
    important difference from the Yamahas and Kawasakis of the time.
    The GT750 triple had 4 main bearings. All ball race.
    The one at the end which delivered the primary drive to the clutch ran in
    the gearbox oil so that one had excellent lubrication. This was pretty
    standard for Japanese two-strokes.
    But ... The autolube system delivered pure oil directly into the other
    three main bearings.
    As the oil ran out of the main bearings it was picked up by the fuel air mix
    and swept up to lube the big ends, small ends, pistons and cylinder walls.
    There was also a second injector which injected oil into the crankcase inlet
    tract which also lubed the pistons and cylinders.
    As with all auto-lube sustems the oil pump was linked to the throttle. The
    more gas you gave it, the more oil got pumped.

    Cheers,
    Baz
     
    Bada, May 3, 2005
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    Boxer Guest

    I had hoped someone would believe it.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, May 3, 2005
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    GB Guest

    Well, you know, you you, as the seamstress said to the
    plumber, you you, you don't you worry about that now, OK.

    GB
     
    GB, May 3, 2005
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    Goaty Guest

    Given the recent launch of a film based on a tv series, based on a
    record, based on a book, based on a radio play by a certain dead author,
    it's probably appropriate to mention the "Award for the most gratuitous
    use of the word '****'" in this context ...

    Cheers
    Goaty
     
    Goaty, May 3, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    1969 to 1972.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, May 3, 2005
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Not with three Ls, no.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, May 3, 2005
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  16. Yep, he knows all about them. The Clemopedia is proven worng again.

    Al
     
    Alan Pennykid, May 4, 2005
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    smack Guest

    wow, a clemspat
     
    smack, May 4, 2005
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    smack Guest

    ta

    beer mate?
     
    smack, May 4, 2005
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    smack Guest

    No, he's a rap singer
     
    smack, May 4, 2005
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  20. Never said you were "wrong" Clem.

    Never seen one of those Rocket 3s in the flesh till Sunday, and seen two of
    em on Sunday!

    Al
     
    Alan Pennykid, May 4, 2005
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