Summer biking ban?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Zobo Kolonie, Feb 7, 2004.

  1. Zobo Kolonie

    deadmail Guest

    I wouldn't expect to have to learn to use car controls and drive a car
    if I wanted to ride a bike. I wouldn't expect to learn how to drive a
    lorry if I wanted to drive a car.
    I don't see anything wrong with this at all. It wasn't what the OP
    suggested though.

    I think, yes.

    IIIRC they cut the lifesaver out of the driver instruction in the uk so
    now it's safe to rely on your mirrors. I hope I'm wrong since if I'm
    not it's a bad move.
     
    deadmail, Feb 7, 2004
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  2. Zobo Kolonie

    sweller Guest


    We knew they were electioneering on their pledge (1996 IIRC) to re
    nationalise the railway. But it sounded so damned good...
     
    sweller, Feb 7, 2004
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  3. Zobo Kolonie

    deadmail Guest

    Well, aren't they part way there now? I've not paid that much
    attention.

    All they need to do is either let the licenses expire or take the
    services back and put these under the direct control of whoever now
    controls railtrack- the strategic rail authority?

    I used to enjoy using trains but over the last few years I now choose to
    ride a bike from Bath to London to get onto the tube network rather than
    using the train. Given this involves me changing into my suit in the
    tube-station car park the problems with the train must be significant.

    Of course, I could be a pervert that grasps the opportunity to
    'accidentally' expose myself in public on a regular basis.
     
    deadmail, Feb 7, 2004
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  4. Zobo Kolonie

    Zobo Kolonie Guest

    Indeed, and I'm not suggesting that you should.
    I'm just thinking it through and seeing if I can come up with constructive
    ideas.

    Given that bikes, cars, and goods vehicles all have to share the road it
    would seem to make sense that the training for all of them included
    something to do with the practicalities of all other forms IYSWIM (which you
    seem to from your comment above).
    I took my car test in 1996, the life-saver wasn't called that, but it was
    required for certain manouveurs (though not all). Personally I use it a lot
    when I'm pootling about in my car, particularly when changing lanes (which
    wasn't required during the test IIRC).
     
    Zobo Kolonie, Feb 7, 2004
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  5. Zobo Kolonie

    R45six Guest

    As is the term "disabled".
     
    R45six, Feb 7, 2004
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  6. Zobo Kolonie

    deadmail Guest

    I don't think it is; it's not politically correct though.
     
    deadmail, Feb 7, 2004
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  7. Zobo Kolonie

    sweller Guest


    The term "disabled" is not discriminatory.

    However the action of treating an individual in a different manner,
    usually so they are subjected to detriment, because of a disability is.

    When you have a clue, I'd be more than happy to discuss the Disability
    Discrimination Act. There is a clue there as to the legal acceptability
    of the word "disability".
     
    sweller, Feb 7, 2004
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  8. Zobo Kolonie

    Zobo Kolonie Guest

    Why isn't it PC?
    <fx: scratches head, being confused and not always all that good at PC>
    It's used all over the show, in car parks, on badges, all sorts.
    Be a bit of a bind if we suddenly had to change it everywhere to read "May
    not have all bits working normally" or summat overnight.
     
    Zobo Kolonie, Feb 7, 2004
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  9. Zobo Kolonie

    sweller Guest


    I think the more patronising alternative is "less abled" or something.
    Disabled is perfectly acceptable and correct.
     
    sweller, Feb 7, 2004
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  10. Zobo Kolonie

    deadmail Guest

    Possibly- I think people try to use terms avoiding the word disabled;
    like "impairment" or something similar. I've had difficult discussions
    around something my crowd were doing for the RNID since they didn't want
    to use terms 'deaf' or 'dumb'/'mute' and we went with "hearing impaired"
    and/or 'speech impaired' IIRC.
     
    deadmail, Feb 7, 2004
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  11. Veggie Meldrew, Feb 7, 2004
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  12. "Not quite all there", is much more broad fitting and descriptive.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 7, 2004
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  13. Zobo Kolonie

    sweller Guest

    "Spaz" is quicker and more universal.
     
    sweller, Feb 7, 2004
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  14. "Differently clumsy"
     
    pseudoplatypus, Feb 7, 2004
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  15. Zobo Kolonie

    petrolcan Guest

    Fucked if I know. I prefer the term cripples (1)

    (1) Outside of work obviously :)
     
    petrolcan, Feb 7, 2004
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  16. Zobo Kolonie

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, pseudoplatypus
    "Drool-gifted"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Feb 7, 2004
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  17. "Lingually fenestrated"
     
    pseudoplatypus, Feb 7, 2004
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  18. Zobo Kolonie

    Zobo Kolonie Guest

    Can't we just stick with "Oi Joey!" :)
     
    Zobo Kolonie, Feb 8, 2004
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  19. <shock>
    I'm shaken to the very soles of my Trucker boots.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 8, 2004
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  20. Zobo Kolonie

    Martin Watts Guest

    in message
    Methinks your assumption is correct. Can't remember where, but I have read
    statistics which compares accidents against the number of bikes on the road
    .... and guess what riding a bike today is tons safer than it was in the
    sixties. What I would like to see is explicit statistics of who was at
    fault in car/bike accidents. I have been told of such figures that show
    that in over 90% if such incidents the fault lies with the car driver.
    Dunno, maybe that's not right, but it would be interesting to see such
    figures.


    --
    Martin -Yamaha XVS650A (Im a Norfolk boy ... nearest thing I could afford
    to a tractor)

    Norfolk n' good

    www.rockdoctors.org.uk
     
    Martin Watts, Feb 8, 2004
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