Stupid question re that power socket again.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by dwb, Mar 14, 2005.

  1. dwb

    dwb Guest

    Right, I throw my stupidity on to URKM to do as it will.

    Have purchased 12V socket - no problems there. Several suggestions of
    putting in an inline fuse on the + lead (as cutting off the end removes the
    inbuilt one).

    The questions I have are what amp fuse to put in the holder and also what
    type? The bike's standard fuse type is a blade type - but Maplin don't seem
    to sell inline connectors for those - only the cylinder type.

    The GPS power unit uses a 1A fuse, the socket I got earlier comes standard
    with a 5A fuse.

    Do I get a 5A one or do I get a 1A one (which they had in stock but couldn't
    find allegedly) to wire in the socket?
     
    dwb, Mar 14, 2005
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  2. dwb

    Catman Guest

    Use a cylinder type
    5A

    HTH
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    Catman, Mar 14, 2005
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  3. dwb

    dwb Guest

    Can you elaborate a bit as to why 5A over 1A? Ta.
     
    dwb, Mar 14, 2005
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  4. dwb

    Catman Guest

    Yeah, but I'm assuming the fuse is still in the GPS unit?

    If it *is* then the GPS unit is protected from short circuit / execssive
    current. The socket you've bought can carry up to 5A, so use the original
    rated fuse in it. If you want to plug something else in that requires more
    than 1A, it won't blow the fuse IYSWIM.

    If the fuse in the GPS has been bypassed by this arrangement, I'd porlly
    stick a 1A in the adapter, but it wil probably blow if you try using it for
    other things

    Make sensed?
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    Catman, Mar 14, 2005
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  5. dwb

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Well batted, son. I know how you feel. Earlier on I filled my car up
    with petrol *and* then went to the dry cleaner's. I was pretty
    fucking proud. Maybe later I'll go to the supermarket and get some
    groceries, you never know.
     
    Ben Blaney, Mar 14, 2005
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  6. dwb

    dwb Guest

    Yup - it's a seperate unit entirely.
    It does thanks. Hey, at least it wasn't an IT question :)
     
    dwb, Mar 14, 2005
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  7. dwb

    dwb Guest

    I'm glad for you.
     
    dwb, Mar 14, 2005
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  8. dwb

    Champ Guest

    You're on a roll today, Ben.
     
    Champ, Mar 14, 2005
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  9. dwb

    rb Guest

    Good move.
    You can use two female spade connectors to attach a blade fuse. Just
    make sure they are the fully insulated type as one of them will be an
    unfused positive supply.
     
    rb, Mar 14, 2005
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  10. dwb

    dwb Guest

    A roll for being patronising? Yeah, I suppose that's something to aspire to.
     
    dwb, Mar 14, 2005
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  11. dwb

    platypus Guest

    I thought you had people to handle that sort of shit for you.
     
    platypus, Mar 14, 2005
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  12. dwb

    Champ Guest

    Get over yourself - it wasn't patronising, it was funny.
     
    Champ, Mar 14, 2005
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  13. dwb

    Slider Guest

    In
    Suicide bombers and women mutilators?
     
    Slider, Mar 14, 2005
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  14. No more 'funny' than posting reams upon reams of tedious 'dear diary'
    posts, and then whingeing when someone posts a picture of a bike spotted
    whilst on a business trip.
     
    genuine_froggie, Mar 14, 2005
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  15. dwb wrote
    The simple rule with fuses is that you put the next size up from the one
    further down the line, if it is the last in the line then 3-5 times what
    the device needs to run on. A 5amp fuse will do the job nicely.
     
    steve auvache, Mar 14, 2005
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  16. dwb

    Eiron Guest

    Doesn't your bike's fusebox have a dedicated fuse for accessories?
    How quaint! On my old gixxer, you just screw in the two wires to the
    terminal marked "accessories" and use whatever rating of car fuse you
    want.
    5A will be ok. It will blow easily enough and cause no damage when you
    accidentally short it out, though 1A would be better.
     
    Eiron, Mar 14, 2005
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  17. dwb

    dwb Guest

    It might do - I haven't looked.
     
    dwb, Mar 14, 2005
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  18. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    While you're down there, get me 20 Bensons, willya?

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 14, 2005
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  19. dwb

    Fish Guest

    It dosent matter what type of fuse you use I recomend the blade type becasue
    then if one of your Light fuses blow you can swap them over for a quick fix
    until you get to a garage.

    Maplins do sell blade type fuse holders well at least the one I visit does
    but just look around ... you may even be bale to get one off a csapped bike
    at a breaker for free.

    and I say again I would recomend a 10 amp fuse but feel free to try the 5
    amp .If it keeps blowing then go higher. The fuse is there to protect the
    battery not the GPS the GPS needs a 1 amp fuse so thats whats fitted. if you
    ever want to use anything else on the socket 5 amps may not be high enough.

    I would recomend you ignore anything that anyone else say's, I have one
    fitted exactly as you want yours and I was given instuctions by a friend who
    is a MOT tester and has been working on bikes for longer than I have been
    alive. and I have never had any trouble.

    but most of your questions dont really matter if you use a low fuse and it
    continually blows without any fault then use a higher ampage one use a
    cylinder type if you want but then your bike needs two different types of
    fuse which is more hassle. the only advantage of a cylinder type fuse is
    that the actual fuse is sealed in away from the elements which can be quite
    important on a bike depending where you mount it.

    and yes you can use two female spade connector's to connect a blade type
    fuse but its a bit of a bodge but if you cant find anything else then its
    fine.

    To be perfectly installed it should be installed VIA a relay to the ignition
    circuit so that the socket only has power when the bike is on. but this is a
    real pain in the arse an alternative is to fit a switch in the + wire after
    the fuse then when its not in use you can just turn it off. another
    alternative is to just pull the fuse when its not in use.
     
    Fish, Mar 14, 2005
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  20. dwb

    Catman Guest

    THat would make sense
    How exactly is it going to blow before the 1A?
    Yes, but he's going to look pretty fucking stupid if the socket can only
    pass 5A without melting, and something goes wrong and draws 9A, isn't he?

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    Catman, Mar 14, 2005
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