STunningly OT; buyacar.com

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Alison Hopkins, Jul 14, 2006.

  1. Alison Hopkins

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Heh , what's wrong with it?
    Anything that could have been caused by driver abuse?
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Jul 14, 2006
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  2. Alison Hopkins

    SteveH Guest

    Why wouldn't you be driving the same car 6 years later? - I assume
    you'll still be driving your car in 12 months time. In which case,
    where's the difference? (I don't fully understand the fear of ex-lease /
    pool / rental cars).
    *shrugs*

    I fail to see the 'value' in buying something that's going to lose
    several thousand pounds in 12 months of ownership.
     
    SteveH, Jul 14, 2006
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  3. Alison Hopkins

    SteveH Guest

    Airbag fault.
    Possibly caused by the phone fitter, though.
     
    SteveH, Jul 14, 2006
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  4. Alison Hopkins

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    So unless it was fitted by VW they would be quite right to dispute a
    warranty claim
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Jul 14, 2006
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  5. Alison Hopkins

    Dr Zoidberg Guest


    Almost everyone I know who has a hire/pool/loan car drives it like a twat.
    Now if that's how you are going to drive you car then it shouldn't worry you
    that someone else has done it before.

    I however know that I'm not going to find out what happens if I bounce off
    the rev limiter in every gear possible , ride the clutch on steep hills and
    crash over speed bumps without slowing and would prefer a car where this
    hasn't been done.

    Now a two or three year old privately owned vehicle is much more likely to
    have been driven with mechanical sympathy and this is probably less of a
    worry.
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Jul 14, 2006
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  6. Alison Hopkins

    dwb Guest

    But can you understand and accept why others would?

    There is something intrinsically 'nice' about buying new. You may not
    feel that, though it seems others (including me and especially with
    bikes) do.

    Just think that if it wasn't for 'mugs' like me, you'd not have those
    second hand cars to buy.

    IMO, a 3 year old car with 60k miles on it is anything but "just run
    in" - it's a 3 year old car with 60k miles on it.
     
    dwb, Jul 14, 2006
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  7. Like the Toyota warranty that saved me literally thousands of quid last
    time.

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Jul 14, 2006
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  8. Alison Hopkins

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Yup.
    Having owned my last car from new - 3yrs/80k there is a noticable difference
    between the two states.

    The engine itself was still perfect as far as I could see and when cleaned
    the bodywork was just fine.
    There were however a growing collection of small creaks and noises from the
    interior , the suspension was showing signs of wear , plenty of servicable
    components were reaching the end of their life span so that services
    wouldn't just be the basic fixed price any more. More importantly it was now
    out of warranty so anything expensive that broke would be my problem.

    As it happens the air conditioning clutch/compressor died - a common fault
    on VAG cars of this age - which would have been a grand to fix at a main
    dealer. It also needed new tyres , an 80k service and that was going to add
    up to nearly six months repayments on it's replacement so it was traded in
    and a new car bought.

    There is something to be said for the peace of mind of a new reliable car
    that isn't going to have any unexpected costs to catch you out , and it also
    means you get to drive the latest and best model of your choice.

    Yes , running an old shed would save me money , but it wouldn't be anywhere
    near as nice an experience
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Jul 15, 2006
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  9. Alison Hopkins

    Timo Geusch Guest

    I worked for Avis as a student.

    I wouldn't touch an ex-rental with someone else's bargepole.

    The two statements *may* be connected.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 15, 2006
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  10. Alison Hopkins

    deadmail Guest


    Well, I run a 12 year 175k old BMW E34 touring. It's very comfortable,
    cost little to buy and hasn't let me down.

    Of course there are a few loose bits inside and a few creaks. However
    comparing it to hire vehicles and the like that I've been in I think I'd
    rather have the BMW.

    I suspect, however, that my parsimonious nature is biasing my
    feelings...
     
    deadmail, Jul 15, 2006
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  11. Well, that was interesting. Armed with the knowledge of the assorted book
    values for the Avensis, and the list price of a new one, I trotted in to my
    actual Toyota dealer to have a laugh.

    And.....erm.... came out with a new car. I thought they'd come back with
    something silly on PX, but they gave me showroom condition value and a
    reasonable discount. Result was very little different from the brokers, and
    not really worth going to one. And the sales lad will do all the retention
    paperwork for the plate, says lazy me.

    Basically, he was a new Lad, has a high target and it was close to period
    end for their reporting, so they were feeling generous. Kewl.

    Only trouble is, as I've ordered same model in same colour and it will have
    same plate, HOW will anyone know it's new? :)

    Ali
     
    Alison Hopkins, Jul 15, 2006
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  12. Alison Hopkins

    Cab Guest

    'ang on. Your name is Timo. That's hardly a glowing reference, is it?
    ;-)
     
    Cab, Jul 15, 2006
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  13. Alison Hopkins

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Excellent.
    Dealers can be surprisingly reasonable when they know that A) you have a
    good idea on prices and B) you are prepared to buy if they offer the right
    deal.

    They can afford to make very little profit on some of their sales as they
    know they'll up the average on others and they are likely to get a steady
    stream of servicing income.
    Easy. Get it delivered by the garage on the back of a transporter.
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Jul 15, 2006
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  14. Alison Hopkins

    frag Guest

    wessie? He'z just ziz guy, you know?
    I've had 3 ex lease cars now, none of them have had problems earlier
    than normal. I like to think thats down to me being able to spot a car
    thats been abused, but...
    "Diss"?

    Steve was expressing his own opinion, not slagging others off but
    discussing their opinions.

    Since when was expressing an opinion banned in UKRM, comrade?
     
    frag, Jul 22, 2006
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  15. Alison Hopkins

    frag Guest

    Alison Hopkins? He'z just ziz guy, you know?
    Nice :)
    It won't belch black smoke, backfire and break down every 5 miles?
     
    frag, Jul 22, 2006
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    Krusty Guest

    Krusty, Jul 22, 2006
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  17. Alison Hopkins

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Are you certain?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jul 22, 2006
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  18. Alison Hopkins

    Krusty Guest

    As certain as anyone can be based on a name (unless it's Alan).

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    Krusty, Jul 22, 2006
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  19. Alison Hopkins

    Cab Guest

    I'm taking after another ukrmer. :)
     
    Cab, Jul 22, 2006
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  20. Alison Hopkins

    Cab Guest

    Are you likely to get an XK8 that's a few years old for the same price
    as a new Focus though?
     
    Cab, Jul 22, 2006
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