STunningly OT; buyacar.com

Sorry to raise the very idea of a cage. But has anyone ever used
buyacar.com? I'm pondering the replacement of the Avensis and they seem to
offer one hell of a deal, even with PX.

Ta!

Ali

 

http://www.allbrandsnew.com/ have been recommended to me , as has
broadspeed.com

Anyway , uk.rec.cars.misc is that way ----->

 

I know, but I get more sense out of you lot.

Ali

 

Yes, I just bought a megane from them, paid my money, got a new car
delivered, px taken away, very civilised.

 

It's worth getting a load of printouts from brokers for the sale price , a
free Glass's guide valuation of your old one from
http://www.virtual-showroom.co.uk/s...=vauxhall&laf=vauxhall&nuvvpath=b&sessionid=0
and then talking to a few dealers to see how close they can get.
I got my new Octavia at cost price and top book trade in for the old one
using this method

There is a fair amount of crossover between groups anyway.

 

There's a rather nice Bentley Turbo on Auto Trader - only 12k...

 

Kewl. I don't see why I should pay more margin than I need to. Have you come
across any warranty issues?

Ali

 

Seems to be some good deals at www.autotraders.com if you select new cars

 

of course that SHOULD read www.autotrader.com

NOT autotraders

 

They do say it's no different from simply buying from a different dealer.
And given that all the profit is in servicing these days!

Ali

 

Someone I know had one - loved the car but reckoned it cost him at least
£1.50 to overtake anything . . .

 

I got a Megane from AutoByTel a couple of years ago. It too came from
an actual dealer (Renault Southampton) and was made by Renault to order
(so not a pre-reg).

We saved about ?4000 on the price the local dealership wanted.

I also haven't yet had to have anything done to it, but all the Renault
blurb says that warranties, servicing etc are all perfectly valid if
done at any Renault dealership, so it would appear to make no
difference.

Ultimately Ren Southampton made a sale through zero effort by just
having a lower price. Strikes me as the way to do it really - none of
that "work" business.

 

Works for me. The daft thing is that I know exactly which model I want, the
lot. So, my local dealer could have a no effort sale directly to me if they
wanted to. OK, a lower margin, but I've always thought that business with no
cost of sale to speak of is quite attractive.

I shall go dig around some more.

Thankee, chaps!

Ali

 

Things you never thought you would see on UKRM no.25..

Phil

 

Nearly new from a local car supermarket or even main dealer.

Only people buying with someone else's money shoud buy new.

 

Why?

 

(arse, corrected typo)

Because it ranks alongside roulette as a way to burn lots of money very
quickly.

 

That's a very narrow minded viewpoint. I'm looking for a new car, as
it's less likely to come across mechanical problems than an older s/h
car. Buying an older s/h increases the risk of having to pay out untold
sums of money in repairs. Plus I could have a car that no one else has
driven, with that fresh new smell.

The only advantage I see of buying something a year or so old, is that
I could probably get more gadgets and goodies for the same price as a
new one.

Does your logic apply to bikes too?

 

I got nearly 10% off list price on my new car and got to pick the exact spec
and options I wanted.

By buying a year old 12000 mile example I'd have saved myself possibly an
extra grand at the most in exchange for a year's less warranty , no choice
on spec and the knowledge that the previous owner probably drove with no
mechanical sympathy.

Now if you want to sell your car after a year you will lose a lot of money.
The difference between what I'd get selling on my car after 12 months and
what a dealer would then re-sell it for is quite a lot. In fact I've seen
second hand cars being advertised for more than the price I paid for a new
one.

You don't automatically lose a fortune by buying new unless you are paying
full retail price.

Buying new from a car broker will save you a huge amount off list and the
cost to run one from new for three years will be very similar to buying a
year old one for and running that for the same period

 

I wouldn't say you're less likely to have problems - my 6 month old
company car is with VW at the moment, with VW arguing over a warranty
claim.

I don't think the 'new car' smell is worth a lot, I'm in a 2 month old
hire car at the moment which has the new car smell. It smells of
plastic. Nice.

Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about. OK, I can see that
possibly at 1 year old you haven't maximised the savings on a new one,
but I'd never even buy at 1 year old with my money (I only suggested it
'cos it's a fair trade off of price vs age if you want something new,
IYSWIM) - at 3 years old most mainstream cars are barely run it, still
in great condition, and well under half the new price. That's probably
where I'd be looking.

You should be saving a fair bit over the cost of a new one, too.

Yes. I'd never buy a new bike [1] or car with my own money.

[1] Obvious exception being the Hongdou, but that's because a new one
was cheaper than a shagged out 10 year old Jap machine.