[QUOTE] Always fucking technology with you people innit. Why? Ok I am lucky in that there was a stream (which now runs underground) a few yards from my back fence and this means the water table in this immediate area is quite high but the tons and tons of organic materials I have incorporated into the soil and the water management that I have put in place to direct rain water run off into the growing areas rather than around them means that even in this low rainfall area in the height of summer there is enough available water that additional watering is rarely needed even in the greenhouse.[/QUOTE] I've got a stream in the garden, & the liquid from the septic tank runs into it, so I've got an endless supply of pre-fertilized water. Perhaps I should plant some along the edge of the stream & see what happens. Otoh, I definitely remember reading somewhere that tinned toms are better for you.