steering head lock advice

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Navin Johnson, Feb 26, 2004.

  1. Hi All,

    I would like some advice please. I had a recent service and was advised
    that the steering head needed replacement shortly as well as chain and
    sprocket.

    No problem, take mechanics advice. My bike ZZR600 is 5 years old so might
    be due.

    Get work done and bike runs like a dream, however, now i can't lock the
    bike.

    Turn the bars to left to 'lock' but key wont turn to lock position.
    Therefor can't lock bike with key.

    Took back to mechanic (reputable brisbane service centre)and he said that
    perhaps because they were aftermarket parts... blah.

    He said he never heard of this happening before and said he could see where
    it was missing by a mm or so.

    Had anyone ever heard of this?? is it something i should be worried about??

    Steering seems fine and other than this being a concern i think its ok but
    would really appreciate any advice from the group.

    Regards,
    NRJ
     
    Navin Johnson, Feb 26, 2004
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  2. Go back and tell em to fix it!.
     
    DoinitSideways, Feb 26, 2004
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  3. Navin Johnson

    Mike.S Guest

    Wot he said. You have a right as a consumer to

    a) get what you paid for, and all the expectations that go with it (steering locks are rather useful)
    b) rant and rave and be all foulmouthed if things dont go your way.

    take option a) with a pinch of assertiveness.

    Mike.S
     
    Mike.S, Feb 26, 2004
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  4. Navin Johnson

    Frank Warner Guest

    If this is th e'old' system then
    Wot they have done is put the stem (the central tube) back in at the
    wrong angle .. it only effects the steering lock nothing else... but
    they need to take it aprat and do the reassembly correctly.

    If it is another system .. well they still got the reassembly wrong and
    need to redo it..

    The reason they don't want to do it is that it is most of the same time
    to redo it as it was to replace the bearings .. $$$ out of their
    pocket...

    Get 'em to do it right .. you paid for a profesional job.
     
    Frank Warner, Feb 26, 2004
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  5. Did they replace your steering head, or your steering head bearings?

    If it's just the bearings, then it's quite possible that it no longer locks
    due to using after market parts. The AM parts probably have a different size
    lip to the OEM ones. This may mean that you can no longer use the steering
    lock.

    Did they _ASK_ if you wanted to use AM parts? Was it a Kwaka dealer? If they
    didn't ask, and they are a kwaka dealer, demand that they replace them with
    OEM ones free of charge. (If they refuse, complain to Kawasaki Australia.)

    Also, the steering lock doesn't really provide much security anyway. Buy a
    disclock and you will be more secure. (You can unlock the steering head lock
    with a screwdriver, a hammer, and a pair of multi-grips.)

    Incidentally, steering head bearings will last a _very_ long time if you
    take care of them. (No wheelies, regular greasing, no crap in them, no
    stacking.)
     
    James Mayfield, Feb 26, 2004
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  6. Navin Johnson

    Knobdoodle Guest

    X-No-archive: yes
    Navin Johnson wrote
    ~
    This will be something real simple like a washer under the top triple-clamp
    instead of above it.
    Like everybody else said; take it back!

    If you don't wanna' do that then see if you can figure it out yourself.
    Does it miss "by a few millimeters" vertically or radially?
    i.e do your 'bars not turn enough to let it lock or does it "lock" but not
    actually stop the 'bars turning?

    I'm at Carseldine if you want me to have a squizz. (I'm in town until 5pm)
    cmdoherty at bigpond.com
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 27, 2004
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  7. Navin Johnson

    Knobdoodle Guest

    X-No-archive: yes
    Knobdoodle wrote in message ...
    ~
    Oops; I failed reading and comprehension!
    "Turn the bars to left to 'lock' but key wont turn to lock position.
    Therefor can't lock bike with key."

    I'm backing that there's supposed to be a washer/spacer under the
    top-triple-clamp and without it the locking pin is pushing down too far and
    hitting something.
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Feb 27, 2004
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  8. Navin Johnson

    glitch1 Guest

    The AM bearings most shops use are complete kits (and tapered rollers at
    that) and I've never seen a set not fitting the overall dimensions of the
    OEM items.
    What? Put in those junky ball-bearings that Kwaka uses (and most other
    manufacturers)?
    Give me a decent AM tapered roller any day. My Strom had the same shit in
    there, first thing to junk when I had the fairing off the first time.
    On the old cb250, yeah....
    Yup, and even longer if the manuf wouldn't use the shit they do.

    Bearing right now...
    pete
     
    glitch1, Feb 27, 2004
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  9. thank you for the replies, will keep posted
     
    Navin Johnson, Feb 27, 2004
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