startup cost

Never heard of cassette gearboxes? Virtually one touch, they are.

Right back at you, mudbrain.

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Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

 

As Lozzo said, Japanese gearboxes are tough; they've been pretty tough
for the past couple of decades, especially in bigger bikes that are
going to get abused. The problem is you can only take hardening of
materials so far before you start getting into brittle territory and
it's the ends and edges of sliding/rotating components that start to
suffer.

It's cumulative. If you own a particular bike for long enough, you'll
start to find out just what you shouldn't have been doing.

Fwiw, the GS 'boxes are pretty tough, but a PO (clutchless changing ****
that he was) left me with a 2nd gear that jumped out under load after
I'd had the thing for 10K miles. For the next 30K I simply went from 1st
to 3rd until I eventually stripped the box and found the gear dogs were
knackered.

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Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

 

Ehmmm.... one of the later GSXR 750s had it. It surprises me that more
bikes don't, especially in the classes that are likely to be raced.

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Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

 

I saw some trooping round Norwich last week.

And another thing: no-one seems to keep woad any more....

 

The message <>

I've got an ex-dibblery R80 that does that. Is that more likely to be
the dogs or the selectors?

Would I be sensible to get an exchange from MotorBins or (try to) fix it
myself? Assuming it doesn't need an array of special tools I'd not be
afraid to tackle it.

 

IIRC under load its dogs, offload its selectors as the primary cause.

IME [1] if its jumping out of gear, both are likely to be pretty shot.
The worn dogs partially disengaging and loading the selectors causing
them to wear.

[1] BMWs may be different but the problems ones I've had have, shall we
say, have also been German.

 

And there wasn't even a then/than in sight!

Anyway, I think you've worked out what I meant now

You're preaching to the converted here as you know - I will wince about the
cost of certain things, but still - really must use the bike more to get
some VFM.

Actually that's a lie - the leathers still look brand new and they are now
over two years old

 

Phew, we _are_ different people

Yeah, but that was something you just made up. God, if people go around
just making up stuff to post to ukrm then where will we be?


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Kawasaki ZX-6R J1
BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL)
BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, TEAR#3 (and KotL), DS#5, COSOC#9, KotTFSTR#
The speccy Geordie twat.

 

Previously on usenet, dwb said...

Yeah, I apologise. My mistake

My MJKs are like that, done thousands of miles in them and they look no
different to when I picked them up.

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ZZR1100D, GPZ500S, CB250RS x3
BOTAFOT#57/70a, BOTAFOF#57, MIB#22, TCP#7,
ANORAK#9, DIAABTCOD#14, UKRMT5BB, IBW#013, MIRTTH#15a/16,
BotToS#8, GP#2, SBS#10, SH#3, DFV#14, BONY#9.
Url for ukrm newbies : http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ukrmscbt.html
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Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

 

The message <c2c3k4$1rnil9$-berlin.de>

Ta. I think an exchange rebuilt one is indicated as it drops out mainly
under load in first and second, but sometimes on the overrun.

 

The message <c2c43p$1rv8kf$-berlin.de>

After getting out of hospital they gave me my crash helmet back along
with the odd boot and gauntlet. Giving it a pulling-about a two inch
crack opened up in the front, and a three-inch one by the right ear.

It looked fine at first sight, so I didn't want to put it in the dustbin
in case it found its way onto some kid's head via a bit of totting, so I
placed it over a concrete block and hit it with a 4 lb club hammer until
I was exhausted. (Three months under repair does sap your strength)

I had a cup of tea, then got the sledge-hammer out and hit it with that
until I could hit it no longer, after which the cracks were no longer.
So I cremated it.

Impressed with its resilience i went out and bought another Stadium
Project 4. (When my mother saw the box she went ballistic, as she'd
hoped that I'd "learnt my lesson".)

Later, unable to bend one leg enough to get on a solo, I returned to my
first love, charioteering.

 

I don't recall offhand which model variation it was but one of them
definitely had it. My thought at the time was it was for proddy racing
in any case, but it was available off the showroom floor, as it were.

I think they dropped it in later ones, perhaps production costs or
reliability came into play.

A mate had one, in...umm.. 96ish.

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Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

 

There was a limited edition GSX-R 750RR homologation special for
superbike, so I guess it was that.

 

Previously on usenet, Champ said...

There were 2 versions. 1986 GSXR750RG and 1989 GSXR750RK. I don't recall
either of them having a cassette gearbox.

My mate Darren had an RG model, all I remember about that was that it
ate clutches and he wasn't any quicker on it than the FZ750 boys

--
Lozzo : The anti-Timo
ZZR1100D, GPZ500S, CB250RS x3
BOTAFOT#57/70a, BOTAFOF#57, MIB#22, TCP#7,
ANORAK#9, DIAABTCOD#14, UKRMT5BB, IBW#013, MIRTTH#15a/16,
BotToS#8, GP#2, SBS#10, SH#3, DFV#14, BONY#9.
Url for ukrm newbies : http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ukrmscbt.html
http://www.glfuk.com/ for MJK Leathers in the UK.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

 

Previously on usenet, Lozzo said...

^
Correction, 1985. I made a typo


--
Lozzo : The anti-Timo
ZZR1100D, GPZ500S, CB250RS x3
BOTAFOT#57/70a, BOTAFOF#57, MIB#22, TCP#7,
ANORAK#9, DIAABTCOD#14, UKRMT5BB, IBW#013, MIRTTH#15a/16,
BotToS#8, GP#2, SBS#10, SH#3, DFV#14, BONY#9.
Url for ukrm newbies : http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ukrmscbt.html
http://www.glfuk.com/ for MJK Leathers in the UK.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.