Stafford show short report

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Timo Geusch, Apr 23, 2005.

  1. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Blimey was that packed. The tailback started shortly after the motorway
    exit and went up all the way to the showground. Man was I glad that I
    was on a bike and not in the cage.

    The whole thing started very much on the annoying side - I've been
    going up there a few years now and the bike parking was always inside
    the actual showground, but this time some bright spark thought it would
    be a funny idea to cordon off part of the carpark area and put the
    bikes there. For those who haven't been to Stafford yet, the car park
    are the fields/meadows opposite the showground. I wasn't best please
    and was rather worried what 300kg of Pan Euro, parked on its side stand
    because the area wasn't even horizontal, would do to the ground if it
    started to rain. Oh well...

    This was the Brit show so most of the exhibitors were proudly showing
    off very rusty bits of metal that not even the designer could identify
    any more. Excited old boys were bending down so far over these parts
    that I was wondering if they'd even managed to steady the old bones
    again. It was obvious from the bikes on show and for sale that Brit
    bikes seem to fall into two categories - they're either immaculate or
    they look like they haven't seen a bucket of water since 1950.
    Strangely enough a lot of Vincents seem to fall into the latter
    category.

    The bikes on show were mostly utterly gorgeous even though I'm not that
    big a fan of British bikes. Nevertheless it was good to see that people
    were cherishing them. I guess that you can easily build something like
    a mid-sixties Triumph from parts you pick up at the autojumble - a V5'd
    frame here, tank there, new seat over there etc.

    But the bikes for sale were mostly grim. Some Italian bloke had turned
    up with what looked like the contents of an Italian scrapyard, then
    rubbed out the "Lire" signs and replaced them with "GBP" instead.
    Fifteenhundred squids for a later-model Spada that looked like it had
    been through a war? Thanks, but no thanks. A lot of other bikes were of
    similar "quality", although a few stood out - a very nice yellow 400/4
    for example, a couple of genuinely nice Triumphs and Nortons and an
    utterly, utterly gorgeous MV Agusta 350 Ipotesi with a full fairing,
    hardly any km on the clocks and definitely not restored...

    Partswise I was "anything you want as long as it was made by Lucas",
    but I still managed to pick up a couple of bits for the XL250 and a
    copy of an original Honda shop manual for the CB. Only manual I still
    need for the 450 is the parts book but that appears to be really hard
    to get over here.

    Funniest comment of the show, one walking dead to another: "You know,
    these Hondas are starting to become collectable by now"...

    Oh, and muppet here gave the bloke with the Ipotesi his number "just in
    case it doesn't sell".

    <hangs head in shame>
     
    Timo Geusch, Apr 23, 2005
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  2. Phew, I was starting to think you were ill or something.
     
    Austin Shackles, Apr 23, 2005
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  3. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    <checks mirror>

    Nope, still looks as half-dead as I normally look.
     
    Timo Geusch, Apr 23, 2005
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    platypus Guest

    What a scrum. Some of the halls were actually gridlocked.

    Highlights: the Böhmerland and the Ner-A-Car - all it needed was a Megola.
    The Sunbeam-Porsche S8.

    Bought: t-shirt for Laura, coffee, roast pork rolls.
     
    platypus, Apr 23, 2005
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  5. Timo Geusch

    Rob Guest

    I think it was on Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:09:03 +0100 that "Timo Geusch"
    Busiest I've ever seen it - it was bloody heaving. I was in the car,
    but having only decided to go this morning (SWMBO suggested a visit to
    her parents - fortunately I'd put details of the show on the calendar
    in the hall months ago <G>) I arrived around lunchtime, by which time
    they were parking cars in the car park right next to the site, not
    across the road as normal - about a 100 yard walk instead of half a
    mile or so...
    Did you see the reaction to the rat-bike (Goldwing?) on the main drag
    towards the Bingley Hall? I had to elbow my way through about 20 owd
    buggers all tutting and failing to understand so that I could get a
    pic of it (see below for pics).
    And a huge wad of cash. Years ago my bro had a Speed Twin. He dumped
    the bathtub rear end and front muguard, replacing them with cheapo
    ally guards. There was a stall with a dead ratty Trumpet bathtub rear
    end for a mere £480. Bro's bathtub and valanced front guard went to
    the tip...
    The V75 (?) close to the Spada looked OK, but for 800 squids and no UK
    papers it serpently wasn't cheap.

    Did you see the plain-jane Goldwing out near the parade ground? It
    looked nice and original and at (just) under £1400 may have been at
    the right price - didn't hear it run though...

    Normally the April Stafford show is biassed towards Jap bikes, but
    this year (also the 25th Stafford Show) was also Velocette's 100th
    aniversary, and also the (rather sad) 50th aniversary of the cessation
    of Vincent production, so perhaps you can forgive a more Brit-oriented
    show. I have never seen so many Vincents in one place before.

    OK, some pics are at http://www.robrait.dsl.pipex.com/Stafford0405 -
    be gentle as I'm just getting used to a new camera (my first digital)
    and managed to take most of them in 'portrait' mode so depth of field
    isn't what it should be in some pix.

    --

    Rob
    Broseley, Shropshire
    1991 Yamaha XV 535 Virago
    1997 Rover 623GSi
     
    Rob, Apr 23, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    The Older Gentleman says...
    What's with all the compressor engined things painted black with gold
    lettering?
     
    Lozzo, Apr 24, 2005
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    The odd German thing is Bohmerland, or similar, iinm.

    The RatWing makes WC's CBR1000 look positively pristine.
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    Salad Dodger, Apr 24, 2005
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    sweller Guest

    sweller, Apr 24, 2005
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  10. that ratted 'wing is superb.
     
    Austin Shackles, Apr 24, 2005
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    I couldn't find the helmet storage at first and actually had to go back
    because it was so crowded that it was almost impossible to get in the
    door carrying a helmet.

    And I just hope that the ambulance crews are better at finding their
    vehicles than they are at finding the helmets they're holding for you...
    Arse. I did manage to miss them in the melee.
     
    Timo Geusch, Apr 24, 2005
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  12. interesting bike in the "typical outside stall" picture, no 17, - is it a
    cotton, perchance?
     
    Austin Shackles, Apr 24, 2005
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  13. Timo Geusch

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Lucky you - I noticed by the time I got out that people had just
    overruled the marshalls and started parking their bikes besides the
    main gate. Sensible, that.
    That was fun, wasn't it? I actually couldn't be arsed to take any
    photos as it was so crowded that my cheapo digicompact was only good
    for detail shots.
    That as well. It's probably easier to restore an old Brit bike than
    most of the Japanese makes but it doesn't half cost a bundle.
    About half that would've been acceptable IMHO. The small Guzzis aren't
    exactly that sought after in the first place.
    Yup, that looked good, didn't it?
    Did I have that mixed up then? I thought it was the October show that's
    the Japanese bike one - that's certainly the one I normally go to as I
    often can't make the April one. Not to mention that this one is
    normally sponsored by Old Bike Mart...
    They look pretty decent to me - I know how hard it is to take photos in
    there especially if you don't want to use flash...
     
    Timo Geusch, Apr 24, 2005
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    It is a Bohmerland, and it isn't German either - it's a Czech bike,
    even though a certain bloke named Adolf tried to do something about the
    "czech" part.

    And it's even the three-seater - they also did a "short wheelbase" two
    seater.
     
    Timo Geusch, Apr 24, 2005
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  15. That's what I was thinking. There's a world of difference between sheer
    neglext and the bolting on of horrible bits "because they'll do", and
    the deliberate constrution of a post-apocalyptic rat.

    That said, the knot in the exhaust piping is a lovely touch.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 24, 2005
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    Vic Youel Guest

    ..
    Could it be that most Vincent owners ride their machines?

    Vic
     
    Vic Youel, Apr 24, 2005
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    platypus Guest

    The Porsche-engined S8 was the best bit, though - very well done, but with
    the original worm and roller final drive.

    A very quick way of getting to the end of the road before breaking down.
     
    platypus, Apr 24, 2005
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    Mark Hall Guest

    A red 'un was the first bike I ever rode - my best mate was riding it
    in schoolboy motocross. August 1973, I was 13. Didn't really listen to
    his dad explaining to me how to ride it and so, when it came to turn
    round, I forgot about the clutch and it ran away from me, had to lay
    it down to stop it. Then I couldn't get it to start again so my mate's
    brother had to come and resue me. He started it and I rode back
    pillion, oh and his age - 10. Hangs head in shame.

    But wasn't the CB125S the disc braked one introduced in about '76?

    Been hooked ever since, although watching Jeff Smith et al on '60s
    Grandstand MX could have helped....
     
    Mark Hall, Apr 25, 2005
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  19. Timo Geusch

    Mark Hall Guest

    Francis-Barnett "Built Like a Bridge", is a Cruiser xx, can't remember
    numbers but pre-war anyway
     
    Mark Hall, Apr 25, 2005
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  20. No. The CB125S was the name applied to the original drum-braked one. The
    disc-braked one was called the CB125J, although, confusingly, it had
    125S on the side panels.

    Go figure.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 25, 2005
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