Mant thanks to a certain Wingeing Courier of this parish for a most enlightening rideout yesterday. a) My curiosity of life with a "full on" sprotsbike has now been satisfied. Whilst the R1 is undoubtedly a glorious machine, it is not for me. Having done 10 or so miles on M. Courier's pride and joy I can honestly say that whilst the power delivery is without question awesome, and the handling likewise, the riding position does not suit me at all. Arse in the air, head in the clocks was a bit wearing, and gave me a head ache and numb hands. I was slower than if I were riding the Zephyr too. However, many thanks to WC for allowing me a go, must have been a real heart in mouth moment. When I suggested calling the fire brigade to get me off the bloody thing, I wasn't actually joking. The R1 is basically just an NSR125 on speed. b) Seems it's not all me wrt cornering the old Zephyr. There is a noted shimmy from the rear when cornering, which WC commented on too. Also, on the last roundabout before lunching on bacon sarnies and mugs of tea at Fox's Diner I really did lean the fucker right over, and felt the back step out majorly, so I reckon recharging the shox with nitrogen is in order. All in all a bloody good day out,. conclusions are thus: 1. WC is a bloody tidy rider, whereas I am basically crap. 2. The Zephyr is not a sportsbike, thank ****. 3. The rear end of the Zephyr is unpredicatable, it's not just me. 4. There are some good rads in my neck of the woods, pity I am crap at riding them. 5. My next bike will not be a sports bike. A sports tourer possibly -- Dan L (Oldbloke) My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr Space in shed where NSR125 used to be Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament) BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11
Dan L wrote Of course. There is me sitting here with me stomach mumbling about the munchies something horrible and I have forgotten I had a pack of bacon in the fridge what I got out of the freezer only this morning. Yummy Fanks dude.
Yeah, saw that as soon as I posted it. Of course I meant *ROADS*, but you'd know that, being a local, n'all -- Dan L (Oldbloke) My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr Space in shed where NSR125 used to be Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament) BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11
In uk.rec.motorcycles, Dan L belched forth and ejected the following: You get used to it although I must admit, within the first hour of ownership I wondered how long I'd keep it for. Not for me. I'd be more worried about someone like Bonwick have a go, tbh Heh, you poor **** I noticed it went away (well, didn't do it as much) if you give it more throttle on the way out of corners. Oh come on. I'm not *that* good and you just don't get out on your bike as often as you should It's a nice bike, in a ploddy, keep on going all day whilst not in a hurry bike. Just twin shock, innit. I might just get my GS back on the road so you can HAG, now that really is fun! Honestly, Dan, OK, I can see why you'd not want one but ride it or any other like it for a 1,000 miles and I bet you'd feel differently. I can't do anything about the numb hands though, that really is a bastard.
NP old guy -- Dan L (Oldbloke) My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr Space in shed where NSR125 used to be Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament) BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11
They seem to be lowering the speed limits on the nice roads. The A422 used to be a favourite of mine and a lot of it's now reduced below the NSL. Goodness knows why, it's got pretty good sight lines in most parts. You can't use the "XXX bikers killed on this road in the last 3 years" signs as a guide either, because they've got them up on the A421 from MK to Buckingham and that is a truly horrible stretch of road.
That I can understand I'd have been happier with you in front of me, to be perfectly honest My back has been fucking about all day today, although I'm sure it's nothing to do with the R1 I must try that. Heh, cnut, I already own one. That last roundabout was a "oww fuckit" situation, but bugger I, when it stepped out I nearly soiled my leathers This is true, but you do seem to see gaps and opportunities opening up before I've even thought about it. I guess experience / practice is the keyword. I reckon you'll have a ball at the trackday mind. Yeah, I know, it's like an old leather sofa on wheels, I love it. Dunno, it's just a bit too wafty, iykwim. I reckon a session with the nitrogen bottle is in order, seeing as we use a shit load of it at work. Dunno mate, 1000 miles is about 4 months worth for me. Reckon I'll be aiming for a Daytona / Fireblade (subject to extensive testing) or even one of those Griso's if I win the lottery. It was really odd. As I said, your R1 is just like an NSR125, but a bit lighter, with 10000% more power. I am truly grateful to you for letting me have a go, mind. -- Dan L (Oldbloke) My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr Space in shed where NSR125 used to be Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Patio Ornament) BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6), X-FOT#000, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow), OMF#11
In uk.rec.motorcycles, Dan L belched forth and ejected the following: Oh, OK. There's always the weekend after next. A lot of people complain about wrist pains. Personally, I get it in the elbows and in my shoulder blades. Adrenilin is adrenalin. It just happens to be the mood that you're in as to how you feel about it and the rush you get I spend 90% of the time riding through London. I'd rather not as I can quite get into riding quickly on decent sweepy roads but atm, I'm stuck here. You just need to get out more ;-) Heh, leather sofa... <Flaps lips> Why is it you don't ride much? I mean I wasn't counting but we must've done 200 miles on Saturday and you must go out during the week? No probs, man. It's there again if you feel the urge. Just go faster next time. It likes it when you go fast
Bollocks. It's normal practice chez moi to freeze bacon, and it's perfectly good even after many months. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Rope wrote Depends. Proper bacon yes but Tesco shite needs dehydrating some and the freezer is as good a place as any to do this thing, especially if you lay the defrosted bacon between paper towels for a minute or three prior to cooking. added protein.
That's not talking about any bugs though. Fat going rancid is an entirely chemical thing, IIRC. And anyway, they're still talking bollocks. At -18degC bacon keeps just fine, as do other high-fat products such as butter. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Learn to read. It says that some bugs are not killed by freezing, but that all of the ones they were testing for did show a mean reduction over time. So not exactly 'thriving'. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Those pathogens are not thriving, they're "surviving". Freezing does not actually /kill/ many pathogens, it merely prevents them from multiplying. Subsequent cooking after thawing kills them, which is why there are guidelines for thawing meat, as allowing frozen meat to thaw at ambient temperatures allows a lot of time for pathogen multiplication and can lead to food poisoning. You should also note that you are attempting to compare the pathogen load of raw meat and cured bacon here, which will be a less than direct correlation.
Dan L said... I allowed my girlfriend to ride my Gixer this weekend, she got off very pale and gibbering with laughter. She didn't really exploit the power, so later on I showed her what it could really do by pulling alongside her when she was already doing 100mph, lofting the front and wheelying into the distance. She was full of uncontrollable giggles when she caught up with me at a T-junction further on. She wants to buy a Gixer 600 now.
Think about the word 'cured' and it's meaning. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
<snip> I presmue that here you're quoting from the other article, as the one in this post says nothing about it. But you're fabulously failing to understand what it's saying. As Pip ( I think) said, freezing is not supposed to kill all the bacteria, just to stop them reproducing. For any harm to have been caused, the population, far from a small decrease in size, would have seen an almost exponential increase. Before digging yourself even deeper into a hole on a subject about which you seem to know nothing, consider this: if your interpretation was correct, would we see huge shops full of frozen pork and bacon? -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Bacteria that cause meat to "go rancid" are different to those stated in the report you quoted. Salmonella is a food poisoning causative pathogen, not an agent of decompostition relevant to the case in question. Food spoilage bacteria are as different as chalk and cheese to pathogens, to the extent that meat hosting an infective dose of pathogens looks, smells and even tastes fine, but will make you ill. Meat which is 'off',' rancid' or rotting may carry no pathogens at all. In short, you're talking misinformed second-hand bollocks. Again.
