Sprockets & Torque & Cruising Speed & MPG & Chains

Listen to this hypocritical pile of shit saying someone else likes
making noise when all TOG BUTT ever does in this newsgroup is to make
useless, pointless, cacaphonous "noise" to cover the very obvious fact
that he knows nothing about motorcycles and has a brain the size of a
cracked walnut and who probably masturbates his 2" pencil dick while
gazing at old photos of Ringo Starr.

 

Lies and even more lies by TOG BUTT. Bill NEVER received any good
answers or the ones to the questions he asked. He just got the usual
smokesxcreen from TOG BUTT and his moronic backdoor buddies.

They're a bad idea for you but what you think of the idea doesn't mean
shit. My bike, my gearing, my sprocket and I'll do what I want with
it. I realize that a pompous sack of shit like TOG cannot stand
anyone having a divergent opinion from his own so he calls that person
as going "postal" which is just a way to misdirect the attention away
from his own sorry ineptitude and failure to deliver.

That's a good one. That weenie sized brain of yours hasn't "thought"
for so long it's no doubt in a state of total atrophy.

Only your opinion, not a fact and besides, I never said I was going to
put a second master link in the chain of the TW200. That adding of a
chain section was long ago in an old Suzuki trail bike. More
misdirection technique to avoid facing the spectre of TOG's own
failure to provide rational and concrete information regarding a
situation. He's totally out of the loop and has lost it all.

until he actually gets and rides it in stock trim is the best option.
And... he goes postal.

Already having the bike or not is immaterial and strictly my
business. My specific uses of the bike are not those of the original
manufacturing specs and therefore it's none of TOG's or any of his
cronies fucking business what I want to do with the bike. All they
have to do is answer the SPECIFIC QUESTIONS I posed and guess what,
NONE OF THEM have ever done that yet! HAHAHAHA They're losers all!

The only thing funny are the little newsgroup lap doggies who let
TOGGY lead them around on a leash and who, like the obedient
sycophants they are, promise to suck master really good as long as
they don't bite. LOL

Bill

 

<more mindless spew from the emitter of hot air and steam> snipped

 

Don't you consider your comment an insult to 12-year-olds everywhere?
Most kids that age have far more knowledge, linguistical acumen and
common sense than has ever been demonstated by the reigning Clown of
MC Groups, the ever weirder and defunct TOG, the laughingstock of
every group he posts to.

Bill

 

Okay, this totally silly exercise in dissing me regarding a chain I
had on a 1968 Suzuki Trail 80 appears to be what some of the "old-
timers" in this newsgroup live for---pissing all over a newbie instead
of being helpful. So I'll take a stab here of trying to remove all of
the ammunitioin from the NG dickheads once and for all.

First of all, I owned that 1968 Suzuki Trail 80 a LONG time ago and I
cannot say for certain EXACTLY how I lengthened the chain when I
wanted to hang it over the larger of the dual sprockets on the rear
wheel. But I've done a little googling and think I finally found a
photo of what I used way back then to lengthen that chain.

I'm fairly certain it was what is called a split link with a spring
clip. If I remember correctly, I separated the chain, added an extra
length and reconnected the whole thing together with this split link
and the spring clip on it. That's the only timwe in my life I ever
messed with a chain on a motorcycle except to lube and clean it (on my
1979 Honda CB125S that I wish I'd never sold).

There, now perhaps all the pompous goofballs who live to be assholes
toward new posters can find somthing else to amuse their tiny brains.
As far as I'm concerned the GREAT CHAIN LINK MYSTERY IS OVER!

TOG, if you feel the need to pop up ignorantly with yet another
wiseass socially degenerate and totally flippant comment, be my guest;
however you WILL be shooting blanks. HAHAHAHAHA

Bill

Bill

 

Lovely.

You *almost* had me correcting you.

(Er, you were trolling, right?)

 

Is the right answer.

 

Really? In the US? I'm surprised. I had a virtually as-new 1973 one
(two-tone red and white, with a red frame) a couple of years ago.

This one:

http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/CB125.1.jpg

and

http://www.chateau.murray.dsl.pipex.com/CB125.2.jpg

I paid £700 (about US$1300) for it. Ran it for a year, and then sold it
for £700. The guy who bought it ran it for a year, and then sold it for
£700.... As far as I can guess, assuming it's still in the same
condition, it's probably still worth £700.

Exactly. There's no mystery to it. If you add an extra length of chain
to an existing chain, you *have* to have two links.

Oh dear, oh dear. Time to trot out the basic ASCII again, because he's
either too thick to understand it or (as you suspect) is trying to avoid
looking an idiot.

This is a length of chain, and X marks the master (spring, or soft) link
used to join the two ends, named (a) and (b).

(a) --------------------X (b)

This is a 'small length' of extra chain

-----

Now, let's join the two lengths together. For this, we need a master
link, shown below in the middle of the lengthened chain.

(a) --------------------X----- (b)

Now, to rejoin lengths (a) and (b), we need another master (spring or
soft) link.

 

Yes, Geyser, there was a mystery as far as I was concerned and you
see, the world is not always about you and TOG and the others pompous
assholes in the group so therefore if it was a mystery to me how I
accomplished the changeover, guess what Geyser, IT WAS A FUCKING
MYSTERY you total goofball.

And I did nothing of the sort Geyser as you have inferred. I didn't
"gloss over" anything. I DIDN'T KNOW it was called a master link and
was only trying to describe how I changed from a street sprocket to a
trail sprocket. Once again,
just like many of the other pompous bastard-heads in this group, you
are denigrating a new poster who doesn't know a lot of the terminology
and is simply asking for assistance. Geez, you fuckers would make
lousy teachers!

Bill

 

On Aug 23, 11:44 am, (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:

<another treatise of pomposity demonstrating TOG BUTT's incompetence
at being a good teacher since he does nothing but denigrate instead of
offering real help> SNIPPED

Hey Toggy Turd, do the world a favor, FOAD.

 

Heh. He's frothing at the mouth again, isn't he? Still, as you say, now
he's learned something, at least. Two master links in a chain is adumb
idea.

All we have to do now is make him realise that raising the gearing of
his Noddy Bike by 20% won't make it perform any better, in any way.

 

Holy crap. Someone must have been desperate.

 

Better still:

http://www.abledata.com/product_images/images/07A0711.jpg

 

Hey spewer, I didn't give a shit what a master link was since that
information was totally inapplicable to the TW200 since and sprocket
and/or chain change work was going to be done by a motorcycle
mechanic. What I asked were three questions that you and your dick-
licking buddy TOGGY TURD NEVER DID ANSWER. All you could do was float
your little master link scenario that didn't have shit to do with the
OP. But at least it's been fun watching two ignorant shit-for-brains
like you two stumble around and hide from answering my OP like the
newsgroup cowards you are. You bastards are easy to figure out. You
don't know anything so you spend your posts trying to draw attention
away from that fact and piss on others. Just a couple of useless old
losers who simply don't have it any more (if you ever did).

How they look to an ignoramus know-nothjing like you Geyser is
immaterial. They're advertised correctly as 80% on-road and 20% off-
road. And I never said anything about any of my roads being sand.
Learn to read you fucking moron.

Maybe you should stick your tongue up TOGGY TURD's arse and have some
lunch.
HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH

 

Gee TOGGY TURD, is that the rig you go jetting around London in? Of
course, it's probably all you can handle.

HEHE HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH

 

OK, let me think this one out for a sec..

Assme a rear sprocket has 20 teeth. So one complete revolution will
take 20 links of chain.

Now we add 2 teeth, so a complete revolution will take 22 links of
chain, meaning the front has to spin more... Oh ****!

Sorry about that, Bill. You will want to remove teeth from the rear.
I would start by removing no more than 2 and seeing how the bike
works.

Ted

 

Yes. I was thinking about the change of the rear wheel speed
when I should have been thinking about what the chain would be
doing. How embarassing!

Ted

 

On Aug 21, 11:49 pm, (The Older
Gentleman) wrote: But then he didn't need to make the actual
statement, because it is
implicit in his admission that he added a length of chain to an
existing one (a really stupid thing to do).

Oh, now TOG TURD, the wannabe big newsgroup expert, thinks he knows
more that the manufacturers of the Suzuki Model K15 Trail 80
motorcycle. He thinks Suzuki did a really stupid thing by building a
dual sport bike with a dual sprocket and tell the buyer in the owner's
manual and brochures that changing from the smaller street sprocket to
the larger trail sprocket was only a 5-minute job involving adding an
extra length of chain to the existing one.

So how about it Mr. Egotistical Know-It-All, are you now placing
yourself above the manufacturers and insinuating that your o-p-i-n-i-o-
n is now law for Suzuki and perhaps Honda and Yamaha to follow in case
they ever were to disagree with the BIG TOG TURD?

 

YES, JUST LIKE SUZUKI, THE MANUFACTURER OF THE TRAIL 80 DUAL SPORT
SAID TO DO IN THE OWNER'S MANUAL AND ON THEIR BROCHURES. ANY MORE
QUESTIONS DIPSHIT TOG?