Sports tourer market in Aus?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Dave_H, Aug 16, 2004.

  1. Dave_H

    Knobdoodle Guest

    [Google Google] Whoops sorry; it's Tony Molina's dog.
    (posted in November 2001)
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 17, 2004
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  2. Heh - I'd guess my "low powered 1000cc bike" arguement applies equally
    there too, as it does with Harleys, some BMWs, and I suspect most of the
    large Japanese cruisers...

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Aug 17, 2004
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  3. Chrome Don't Get You Home pepito, Aug 17, 2004
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  4. Dave_H

    Knobdoodle Guest

    ~
    It's just Honda technology-for-technology-sake.
    Like the weirdo linked-brakes it's just smartarse aren't-we-clever stuff
    that adds complexity without really giving you anything.
    They shoulda' put the effort into their regulator/rectifiers instead!
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 17, 2004
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  5. Dave_H

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I've got an R-bike but it's not my sole bike...
    (I'd hate to be an R-sole like Smee!)
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 17, 2004
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    sharkey Guest

    sharkey, Aug 17, 2004
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  7. Dave_H

    Knobdoodle Guest

    [hears whooshing sound... looks up]
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 17, 2004
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    SmeeR1100s Guest

    OI
    No beer for you at PI
     
    SmeeR1100s, Aug 17, 2004
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  9. Dave_H

    John Littler Guest

    Why don't you get yourself a ZZR250 then ? Sounds like it would be a
    good upgrade - it has about 50% more power than a CB250 and a lot better
    handling.

    By the way, in the nicest possible way, your prejudice about twins is
    shutting you out of a segment of the market which would be entirely
    suitable to your needs. 4's vibrate too, in fact they can vibrate worse
    than twins.

    Get yourself an SV650 it's an excellent next bike after a 250 - great
    handling excellent engine heaps sold so parts easily available and
    plenty to choose from. ZZR600 is a good bike but it's a generation older
    and hence considerably heavier and lower tech

    JL
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    John Littler, Aug 17, 2004
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    conehead Guest

    "I dunno, really. I was just standing there and this red and black and pink
    thing popped out of my arse"
     
    conehead, Aug 17, 2004
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    Stoneshop Guest

    Don't overlook something as unobvious to the novice as the amount of force you
    need to twist the throttle. Or the way the bars are mounted and angled.

    I recently rode a Guzzi Quota (1000ie), two hours there and back, with a stop.
    Both times I had slightly tingly hands, which I don't get on the GS even after a
    full day of riding. And that despite the GS's engine being less smooth than the
    Guzzi's, at the moment.

    Similarly on the K, with its sewing-machine triple, the right-hand grip got
    pretty buzzy at 5..7k RPMs until I slapped a bar-end weight on it (and on the
    left for symmetry, even though that side didn't need it).

    --
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    // Enschede, Netherlands '91 R100GS/PD The Great Unwashed
    // N 52.2158 E 6.88589 '90 K75C Kommutabike
    // "Far away is only far away '81 MZ TS250/1+LSW Badkuip
    // if you don't go there" '79 Honda XL250S TBD
     
    Stoneshop, Aug 17, 2004
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  12. Not only that, but just one in every five holders of motorcycle licences
    actually owns a bike. The number of registered bikes is 1 per cent of
    the total number of registered cars in Australia.

    So, yep, cars are a necessity and bikes aren't (for most people).
     
    Stephen Calder, Aug 18, 2004
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  13. Jejejejeje ...

    I'll pay that one !
     
    Chrome Don't Get You Home pepito, Aug 18, 2004
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  14. Dave_H

    david Guest

    That might change when petrol hits $2 a litre

    David
     
    david, Aug 18, 2004
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  15. Dave_H

    Nev.. Guest

    I doubt it. Milestone petrol prices (like $1/litre) are just psychological
    barriers. In the past 15 years the price of petrol hasn't really gone up much
    in real terms. When it costs $2 a litre people will just pay more for it,
    like they do now that it is $1 per litre. Back in the 70s when the price of
    petrol soared, people didn't sell their cars and buy motorcycles, they sold
    their cars and bought cars which were more fuel efficient. I think fuel
    efficiency in modern cars has probably outpaced the price of petrol anyway.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 18, 2004
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  16. I didn't. I did the sums and realised that at 20c a litre (up from
    14-15 I think) it was really still irrelevant and therefore went out
    and bought a V8 :)
    I reckon that'd be a pretty good guess.

    Cheers
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Aug 18, 2004
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    BT Humble Guest

    How so? Will there be that much of a fuel cost saving due to riding a
    15km/l litre-class sportsbike Vs a 15km/l 1600cc Toyota Corolla?

    It isn't significantly cheaper for me to commute on my 20km/l GPX250
    Vs my 5.5km/l Econovan, now that the Econovan runs on LPG[1].
    Especially when you consider the higher consumables cost for a bike
    (tyres/brake pads/chains/etc.)


    BTH
    [1] Approximately 5.5c/km for the bike Vs 7.5c/km for the truck.
     
    BT Humble, Aug 18, 2004
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    Ern Reeders Guest

    SV650s is half-faired and a tasty number, but you don't like V-twins
    (actually, take one for a test ride; it feels like a 250 to handle but goes
    like a 650).

    Triumph Sprint - an alternative to a viffer that's had good reviews

    Yammie TDM 850 or 900 - half-faired but good all rounder; parallel twin but
    little irritating vibration
     
    Ern Reeders, Aug 18, 2004
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    conehead Guest

    In the mid-70's when it was mandated that fuel prices were quoted in
    cents/litre instead of cents/gallon(imp), my local servo went from 47c/gal
    to 13.5 c/litre (61.3c/gal for the arithmetically challenged)
     
    conehead, Aug 18, 2004
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  20. Dave_H

    Nev.. Guest

    It obviously wasn't BP. US owned distributor by any chance?

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Aug 18, 2004
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