Speed Cameras & Bike Mounted Detectors

I'm currently thinking of getting radar/speed camera detector for the bike.
Ideally I'd like something that I can put in the car as well. Has anyone
got any good advice (apart from slow down) regarding the pro's and con's of
any particular make. I understand that the Geodesy is reasonably
waterproof, but I'd like something that can detect mobile cameras/guns if at
all possible. If people have used a removable unit, how have they mounted
it?

Any advice would be well received.

Wes

R1150RT, NC30

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Wes Wells amazed us all with this pearl of
wisdom:

I've got a Geodesey and very good it is too. I like it because I can
transfer if from the car to the bike and vise versa. If you find a model
that does what you want but fits on a bike then let me know.

 

Wes Wells wrote

Why should you feel the need to slow down?

Eat plenty of fruit.

 

steve auvache fumbled, fiddled and fingered:

Don't run with scissors

--
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and a 520i SE Touring for comfort

(not forgetting the SK90PY)

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

 

On the underground.

 

With a rucksack.

 

..... if you're slightly foreign looking.

--
Steve Parry
K100RS SE & F650
and a 520i SE Touring for comfort


(not forgetting the SK90PY)

http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk

 

AFAIAA, the "acquisition time" for the latest mobile laser speed
detection devices ("guns") is 0.3 seconds; so, by the time you've heard
the warning signal from your detector, the operator is already in a
position to measure your speed.

There are other factors involved in whether they have actually
/recorded/ your speed, however, but with the new generation of laser
speed guns reportedly capable of measuring vehicle speeds more than a
mile away, IMHO detectors other than the GPS type for fixed location
cameras are probably of reducing benfit.

 

Crap joke time:

Q. What's the difference between a muslim with a rucksack and basil
Brush?

A. Basil Brush goes "Boom Boom"...

 

The IRA have just announced they are stopping all acts of terrorism as
they can no longer compete with the cheap Asian imports.

 

I use the Geodesy too. I got the add on mobile detector / laser
jammer but never worked out how to fit them discreetly to the bike.

The law is changing in the UK [1] to ban detectors [2] and the legal
status of jammers has always been uncertain. They are both already
illegal in France and other countries. I think you run the risk of
them being confiscated.

As an extra, Garmin are "thinking about" adding proximity-alerts to
the StreetPilot 26xx firmware as featured in the new (and over-rated)
2720. So that could save me the a few quid subscription a year as I
will be able to convert the free TomTom database of camera locations
to Garmin format.

[1] Anyone got an update?

[2] But not GPS based "locators" such as the Geodesy and TomTom.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, gomez amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:

Is the laser jammer waterproof?

If I had to fit one to mine, I suppose I'd put it somewhere around the
oil cooler, above the radiator.

I would think a jammer is illegal, it jams. A GPS locator just warns of
accident blackspots

What's a proximity alert? The Geodesey already has this but as you know
it can be a pain because that camera on the flyover you just went
underneath sets it off.

I'm thinking about upgrading to the "plus"[1] which has auto-ranging and
speed sensing so stops all the beeps and flashes when you're crawling
past a gatso at 3mph in roadworks.

[1] Updatable via the modem or serial cable.

 

Whinging Courier wrote:

Technically it would be against the radio/wireless communications act -
but, IIRC, not one case has made it into a law court yet.

I met a guy recently on the ferry (who may be reading by now) who has a
stealthily modified Pan - including iirc radar/gps combined warning and
360 degree jamming that works in a short burst.

ie the jammer is on - does it's job, tells you and then shuts down, you
then have just enough time to hide or hit the anchors before the plod
does a second scan and realises it wasn't a glitch but a jam.

*nice*

--
Dnc

B1200 - +30bhp ~|~ ZZR1100 - faster when upright
V2300 - flat cap and rug ~|~ VS800 - borked

MIB#26 two#54(soiled) UKRMMA#26 BOTAFOT#153 X-FOT#003

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Doesnotcompute amazed us all with this pearl of
wisdom:

Google disagrees with you.

Did you see this setup for yourself? Not only would it be extremely
difficult to demount an object that by its very nature needs be be
secure, in a hurry, but to do it and hide it well (i.e disconnect the
wires etc.) would also be very difficult indeed.

If you didn't see it yourself, I suggest it's bullshit.

 

Yep. Its encased in a solid block of resin. I think it'ss normal to
mount it behind the grill of a car

I did think about inside the headlight of the VFR, but couldn't work
out how to get inside the bugger. It needs line of sight. If you are
interested you can make me an offer for mine

What you said next. Hopefully on the 26xx it will be an attribute of
each waypoint, so that you can set it to go off for speed cameras, but
not for truck-stops (which I have downloaded to my 2610).

You get used to this, because you don't get the gradual increase in
the number of light if approaching it sideways on, but a sudden blip
and then its gone. Not sure how this works unless the database if
also aware of the direction of the road the camera is on.

Thats the version I have. The M25 variable speed section is a bugger
as the trigger-speed is set very low (30mph I guess) so its sounding
off all the time at normal legal speeds,

The modem doesn't work with my ADSL-enabled line [1], so I used to do
the updates at work. When I went on gardening leave I shelled out for
the serial-cable box which also makes it easier to play around on the
PC with setting the trigger-distance (default 1/2 mile) and such like.
I have left my settings as standard though.

[1] For sale one Geodesy update modem box.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, gomez amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:

Not interested in one really. The thing is, if it goes off you know
they've already got you, which reminds me, I must get the beeps turned
up, I can't hear them at anything over 60mph on the bike.

Yes, the Geodesey doesn't have a personal point of interest feature. I
tend to recognise where places are if I've been there before though.

True, you do get used to it. Does yours occasionally flip out? I mean
will you get the blue communicating light, then suddenly five or six red
LEDs with beep, then a blue again followed by more red then green? I
used to get the occasional blip but it's been doing it more recently.

Yep, it goes off under all those gantries, that is a little unnerving
and I never know exactly what speed I should be doing, unless those
60mph signs are lit.

Ah, I had a problem with updating on a ADSL line but after a series of
trial and error, I pull the modem straight out of the PC, wait five
minutes, then put the Geodesey into the modem and then plug the modem
into the mains before very quickly connecting it to the phone line. It's
a bit of a pain but 90% of the time it works first go. If it doesn't it
can take ages for the modem to go online but it does (eventually) work.

 

I can't hear them at all on the bike. I do have it mounted just under
the screen, so its in my peripheral vision. Sometimes hard to see the
lights when its very sunny though. An audio-feed to my helmet-phone
would be much apreciated.

That happens occasionally. Can't really say it is doing it anymore
than it used to though.

Sounds like a bit of a faff but I suppose it's only once a week or so.

 

I think it can happen if there are two cameras very close together
which are in there as separate entries.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, gomez amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:

I had my lights turned up to 100% less than a week ago and I can now
just about see them in bright sunlight. I don't have a screen so have to
remember to look at the lights when I'm in what I consider to be a
likely gatso area. I wanted the sound turned up to 100% as well but this
would be too much for inside the car which was the main reason for
getting the Plus upgrade, at least then only the warning pips would
sound.

It is a faff, there's no denying that, especially if it doesn't go first
time[1] it can take, well, hours!

[1] A series of line engaged and modem error errors.

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, gomez amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:

There's two cameras down the road from me that are about 100 yards
apart, it'll just keep flashing and beeping 'till I'm past them; this is
something else. It does seem to do it less or more after I've updated so
maybe that's it, or more likely because I've in London and the thing is
more or less constantly going off.