Speed Camera Detectors to be Banned!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mike, Jul 16, 2004.

  1. Mike

    Brimstone Guest

    Yes, in the cabinet at the front are controls for emergency use.
    Most of the time the "Train Captain" is operating the doors and giving the
    signal to the train to start. If something goes wrong s/he can drive it.
     
    Brimstone, Jul 17, 2004
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  2. Mike

    Catman Guest

    They aren't concerned about breaking the law, they are concerned about
    getting done for it.
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    Catman, Jul 17, 2004
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  3. Mike

    Catman Guest

    That is a rather definite sign: the fact that it's changed from dual to
    single
    I suspect you'll find that that is an urban myth. I was categorically told
    (by one copper and one driving / biking instructor) that the *only*
    enforceable method (in law)of indicating speeds other than NSL is by means
    of a round sign with a red border, white background and black numbers. The
    streetlight thing is a good guide, but no more. However, if you can quote
    the relevant law to support your case (as opposed to highway code) then I
    will gladly stand corrected (and my wife will be chuffed since she thinks
    I'm wrong)

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    Catman, Jul 17, 2004
  4. Mike

    Steve Firth Guest

    Ah yes, all those foreign johnnies don't know how to drive. The British,
    the British, the British are best.

    Nice sideline, but irrelevant since the issue was coping with speed
    limits appropriate to conditions, care to try again Mr Cyclist?

    BTW, you will find that countries such as Germany which have
    *appropriate* speed limits within cities have a lower KSI than we do
    within cities. They also kill fewer children than we do. So your tinpot
    Englander attitude doesn't really work.
     
    Steve Firth, Jul 17, 2004
  5. Mike

    Pete Murray Guest

    No, it's computerised - he'll be a semi-conductor.
     
    Pete Murray, Jul 17, 2004
  6. Mike

    Silk Guest

    Because they are mythical beings.
     
    Silk, Jul 17, 2004
  7. Mike

    Alex Hunsley Guest

    Annoyingly, yes it does. I read something in a newspaper yesterday
    whereby a driver was defending working speedcamera detectors by saying
    "these detectors improve road safety, because I won't have to break
    suddenly for a speed camera". The moron obviously hasn't realised, or is
    ignoring the fact, that if he didn't speed in the first place, he
    wouldn't have to break. People like that should only be allowed to drive
    bumper cars at the fair.
     
    Alex Hunsley, Jul 17, 2004
  8. Mike

    Guest Guest

    Yeah but if the bastards didn't set the speed limits so low he wouldn't
    have to speed in the even firster place would he.
     
    Guest, Jul 17, 2004
  9. Mike

    ThePunisher Guest

    "SPEED is a major contributory factor in a large percentage of road traffic
    accidents."

    No it isn't.
     
    ThePunisher, Jul 17, 2004
  10. Mike

    JohnJ Guest

    Nobody *has* to speed.

    JJ
     
    JohnJ, Jul 17, 2004
  11. Mike

    Brimstone Guest

    Who is forcing him to break the speed limit?
     
    Brimstone, Jul 17, 2004
  12. Mike

    Brimstone Guest

    Still 50kph in Germany is it? Which is a tad over 30mph.

    They also kill fewer children than we do. So your
     
    Brimstone, Jul 17, 2004
  13. Mike

    Steve Firth Guest

    Speed limits in residential areas are lower, for example 30kph on the
    development where a friend lives, and Germans tend to obey it. As I
    said, appropriate speed limits, which implies not blanket stupid ones.
     
    Steve Firth, Jul 18, 2004
  14. My first car was an Austin Healey Sprite, the one that became known as a
    frogeye. It was very basic but I thought it was a lovely little car, just
    the thing for enjoying carefree driving. Indeed quite a cameraderie
    developed among Sprite drivers in those days - 1960ish. Happy days.

    Best wishes all,
    Dave - alias TripleS.
     
    David Knowles, Jul 18, 2004
  15. Mike

    Lady Nina Guest

    I love that advert - They just look so 'I done another bad thing'.
    Reminds me of certain UKRMers.
     
    Lady Nina, Jul 18, 2004
  16. Mike

    Purditer Guest

    One problem is that people jam on their brakes for speed cameras, even when
    they are not speeding in the first place. Nearly saw a pile up from some
    tailgating prat in a green Audi at the bottom of the M11 today when someone
    just did that.

    Oddly enough today I happened to meet several Essex police speed camera
    police officers today and they showed me a range of photographs of fatal
    accidents of cars who had hit pedestrians at a range of speeds ranging from
    25-40 mph at the moment of impact. The difference to the damage to the cars
    was extremely surprising. I also saw a range of photographs from fatal
    car-car accidents that happened at speeds below the speed limit but at an
    unsafe speed where you would have thought an accident unlikely or in the
    event of one, not much would have happened.

    I even got to play with real radar and laser speed traps. Some really
    personal 1:1 observations from the officers and a really good PR event that
    made you feel that cameras are not just money makers. Interesting that all
    the mobile cameras are police officer operated (as opposed to civvies) and
    that they targeted serious speeders rather than those who drift just above
    the speed limit.

    I drove home well under the speed limits after that!
     
    Purditer, Jul 18, 2004
  17. Mike

    Purditer Guest

    You can see them on the overhead gantry on the M1S, after the M10 exit about
    half a mile before the slip road exit for the M25 . They are not traffic
    flow cameras and look like other SPECS cameras, although they could possibly
    be ANPR. I have not seen the matching pair for the exit to this section, but
    I always go east from here, so maybe they are on the westbound M25 entry.
     
    Purditer, Jul 18, 2004
  18. Mike

    Alex Heney Guest

    That depends on how you define "large percentage".

    It also depends on how you define speed, and how you define a "major
    contributory factor".

    Using what most people would consider sensible definitions, it is
    something like 7%. Although even there, speed does not mean "over the
    speed limit".

    Using the definitions of the "speed kills" twats, it is more like 30%.
     
    Alex Heney, Jul 18, 2004
  19. Did they explain how they determined the speeds?
     
    Nick Finnigan, Jul 18, 2004
  20. Mike

    Paul Robson Guest

    Drive along the A14 Huntingdon->Cambridge, either way, you'll soon get
    the point.
     
    Paul Robson, Jul 19, 2004
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