Speed Camera Detectors to be Banned!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mike, Jul 16, 2004.

  1. Mike

    The Reids Guest

    Following up to Phil Wattis
    this isn't a temporary M roadworks 50, the A2 reduced to 50
    permanently to reduce noise.
     
    The Reids, Jul 16, 2004
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  2. Mike

    Mike Guest

    I agree with you on this.. Towns and cities have benefitted from
    reasonable use of fixed cameras, but "reasonable" is becoming a
    rarety.

    I think speed detection devices placed sensibly in towns and
    cities, work. Outside of that they are a hindrance and a danger
    to all motorists and road users. And when towns/cities become
    infested with them they lose any real effect as speeding is
    replaced with other dangers brought about by frustration and road
    rage.
    Not at the speeds you ride at, surely? ;)

    *runs for cover*
     
    Mike, Jul 16, 2004
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  3. Mike

    dwb Guest

    Hey, even I can go fast on the straight bits.
     
    dwb, Jul 16, 2004
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  4. Mike

    Steve Firth Guest

    If a dual carriageway has a speed limit lower than NSL, then the
    "problem" is entirely artificial.
     
    Steve Firth, Jul 16, 2004
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  5. Mike

    Steve Firth Guest

    Since I work out there from time to time, thanks.

    Not many drivers realise that roadworks and the hardshoulder are
    dangerous places to be. IIRC most deaths on motorways are from the
    workforce. I certainly know now of three policemen who have died on the
    hardshoulder (that's over the last five years) and two of my colleagues
    who work on the other side of the cones have been killed.

    The limits set in roadworks are purely to protect the workforce who are
    more vulnerable than pedestrians on a road without a footpath.

    Personally, I think the 70mph limit on motorways is too low, that 60 on
    a single carriageway 'A' road is about right and that many lower limits
    need review. Some of them are far too high, others ludicrously low.

    At present, the major decider for if your area gets a very low limit
    seems to be "does the mayor/council leader or Chief Constable live down
    your street?" I'd like it to be tad more rational than that.
     
    Steve Firth, Jul 16, 2004
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  6. No doubt you don't. Cocooned in your metal womb you are probably quite
    oblivious to the world passing by at 100+mph.

    However it is not the speeds, per se, that I find stressful, is it is
    aggressive attitudes that go along with drivers who drive at considerably
    more than the speed limit, that is the problem. Busy slip roads are made
    substantially more dangerous because of idiots who consider that it is their
    'right' to go at 90+ in the second line, making it very difficult for slower
    moving traffic to move into the second lane to make way for cars on the slip
    road to come onto the dual carriage way. Fortunately a couple of the more
    dangerous slip roads have been made safer by the installation of speed
    cameras.
     
    Harry The Horse, Jul 16, 2004
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  7. Mike

    Tim S Kemp Guest

    I hope they'll compensate those who hand them in, like they did for
    handguns, but with a proper value...
     
    Tim S Kemp, Jul 16, 2004
    #47
  8. The one hidden behind bushes at the Liverpool end of the M62?
     
    Mike Tomlinson, Jul 16, 2004
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  9. Mike

    James Guest

    You shouldn't move over if it isn't clear. Traffic on the slip has to give
    way. If you can't move over, it's their problem, they either need to wait or
    stop trying to join the motorway at 45mph.
    James
     
    James, Jul 16, 2004
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  10. Mike

    darsy Guest

    TOG@toil, ,
    what makes you think the authorities actually want to stop people
    speeding?

    I think it'll be *very* productive...revenue wise.
     
    darsy, Jul 16, 2004
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  11. And your response pretty much sums up the attitude I was describing. It's
    not the problem of the guys hogging the outer lane far in excess of the
    liimit, it's the problem of those with the audacity of wanting to join the
    dual carriage way.
     
    Harry The Horse, Jul 16, 2004
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  12. Mike

    Catman Guest

    No, but they *will* tell you what the limit is.
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    Catman, Jul 16, 2004
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  13. Mike

    Steve Firth Guest

    Driving on dual carriageways is made more difficult because of the
    number of fuckwits who consider that they are so important that they
    don't have to give way as required by law when they join a dual
    carriageway from a slip road.

    It looks like you want to be identified as a fuckwit who has never
    bothered to read the Highway Code.
     
    Steve Firth, Jul 16, 2004
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  14. Mike

    Steve Firth Guest

    What either not at all or with a laughable payoff of a small fraction of
    the value?
     
    Steve Firth, Jul 16, 2004
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  15. Mike

    Catman Guest

    Whiel I disagree with the idea in priciple, technically I don't know of any
    tunnels where the limit changes inside. Simply limit the vehicle to the
    speed limit on entry, and keep it there until it enters a new zone.

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    Catman, Jul 16, 2004
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  16. Mike

    Ginge Guest

    I also don't get this because I've yet to drive a car that can't hit at
    least 90MPH by the end of a slip road should it be needed.

    It seems to be more a case of poor forward planning if people can't exit
    a slip road into a suitable gap..
     
    Ginge, Jul 16, 2004
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  17. Mike

    K Olley Guest

    Take into account all the speed limits for all the types of vehicles using
    the road and the differential between these speed limits on the same piece
    of road.


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    K Olley, Jul 16, 2004
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  18. Mike

    dwb Guest

    You haven't driven many small cars have you :)
     
    dwb, Jul 16, 2004
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  19. Mike

    Ginge Guest

    Plenty, you just have to drive them far harder, and hold the gears a lot
    longer.
     
    Ginge, Jul 16, 2004
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  20. Mike

    Geoff Guest

    ->> The Government plans to include the ban in a forthcoming road
    ->> safety Bill. The penalty for carrying a device in a vehicle has

    ->I hope they'll compensate those who hand them in, like they did for
    ->handguns, but with a proper value...

    Don't be daft that would eat into the extra revenue they are after.
     
    Geoff, Jul 16, 2004
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