Speed Camera Detectors to be Banned!

Perhaps what is really needed is to realise there is no 'speed problem'
then fuckwits would not have to keep coming up with ever more ridiculous
schemes to solve it.

 

Doesn't work for Truvelo or SPECS though.

I'm not keen on radar/laser detectors. I don't give much of a toss about
them or the drivers who use them either so I don't want to see them
banned. However drivers who have them tend to drive as if radar/laser
was the only thing to worry about. Hence on the A40 for example I've
seen drivers scream past (inactive) cameras at >70 in a 40 limit. Yes,
very clever, they won't get a ticket from that camera.

Sadly your chances of being involved in a collision with one of the
drivers who sees the camera and brakes to 30mph (i.e. a significant
minority) is much higher. Because instead of drivign according to the
conditions, the radar detector owner is driving accordign to what a
little box tells them.

And I thought we (sensible drivers) were trying to get away from slavish
following of the dictates of electronic boxes.

 

the cont known as Keelworm says...

This one?
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?
name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=16

 

Like the automatic planes, and the automatic trains?

Trains in particular- they run on a track, yet it's deemed unsafe to have
them completely computer controlled.
(Even the 'automatic' trains are still monitored)

When was the last time your computer locked up, had to patched up, or
repaired?

How are you going to monitor every road in the country and every vehicle on
it to ensure the computer doesn't do something stupid?

Driver training would cost less and achieve more, without making people feel
like they shouldn't bother getting up in the morning.

 

Driving on the dual part of A21 each day I know perfectly well that there is
a speed problem and that driving along certain segments of the road have
become safer and less stressful as a result of speed cameras having been
installed.

 

Ahh you gotta love it, prominent picture of grieving mother Sue Cini
standing next to a GATSO clutching a picture of her son killed by a
speeding driver. His picture is going to be stuck on a camera at the scene
of the crash.

What they didn't bother mentioning was the 'speeding' driver lost control
at double the 30mph limit, was pissed, was driving a car taken without
consent, and didn't even have a full driving licence.

Just the kind of driver GATSOs are going to be issuing 3 million tickets to
this year - NOT!

 

Fair enough; I don't have a problem with this. I use a non GPS radar
detector so I will be affected.

I do have a big problem with -

- the council procedures for consulting on speed limit changes
(failing to consult affected users, and not carrying out accident
analysis, overriding opinions from qualified police advanced drivers)

- police refusal to attend every accident and prosecute where an
offence committed

- decline in detection and prosecution by the police of careless or
dangerous driving, the most frequent cause of accidents (down 45% over
the decade)

Daytona

 

Following up to Mike

cant I take the third way? Bored with the same old comments and a
bit ratty?

 

Following up to dwb

I've never done otherwise.

 

Following up to Richard White

I don't drive within the speed limit on motorways, I don't drive
within the 70 reduced to 50 near me. No doubt you think I should
slow down to these arbitrary speed limits, many think otherwise.
I believe appropriate speed and reasonable sensible enforecement
of speed limits gives a sensible result for all.
But we have been here many times before....

 

Richard White raved thus:

:: Perhaps what is really needed to solve the speed problem, is a GPS
:: linked speed governor built into the "brain" (ie. computer) in each
:: modern car. This system would know the car's position at all
:: times, and from a database of which speed limits apply where would
:: simply restrict the car's speed (limiting engoing power, perhaps
:: even applying brakes) to keep the car within the legal speed limit
:: at all times.

Perhaps what we need is less of fuckers like you wanting control what I'm
doing when I an quite capable of driving in accordance with local
conditions, and more of proper driver training, scare tactics (like the one
I saw on a Yank TV show where they took some guys who'd been caught speeding
down to the morgue and showed them some RTA victims) and reasonable
punishment of offenders.

IMHO if you fit an intelligent speed limiter to cars all the fuckwit drivers
will do is keep their right feet to the floor because the car will not drive
any faster than it is safe to do so; remember, the speed limit is the safe
limit according to the silent message in all these anti-speeding campaigns.
So that'll be 30 mph down estate roads lined with cars, 60 mph down unlit
country lanes in the pissing rain and 70 mph on a well lit, dry, empty
motorway at five in the morning.

Nice one, try thinking clearly next time.

--

Abo: spotter for #9 truck Pete 'Wilky' Wilkinson

www.pickuptruckracing.com
www.daysofthunder.co.uk

 

Following up to Daytona

Its getting really silly now, every day I see some idiot hurtle
up a gap in L1 left by the middle lane hogs and cut dangerously
into L3. Dangerous driving goes undetected.

 

Following up to Harry The Horse

Most of us don't find it stressful driving at the sort of speeds
you find on A roads.

 

I used to speed in the bits on Motorways where a temporary 50 was in
place, until it was pointed out to me that this was to lessen the
liklehood of a stone being flicked up and hitting a workman. Now I
stick to 50 in them. Don't stick to the 70 in the 70 section though.


Phil.

 

Ah.. But that only applies with control of the vehicle within
rigidly enforced speed limits right? Anything outside of that
cannot be subject to any "common sense" approach and must be
device controlled.

Hooookay.. Yup, righto, I've got that now.

This is what happened yesterday at a GATSO site..
http://www.standerwicks.com/crash.html

That's with a few yards of a GATSO. What will they do now, place
another one there because it's an accident blackspot?

 

That's still going to lead to one of my suggestions.

 

How do you get that conclusion from what I wrote?

 

Prezactly.. Support the Durham Chief Constable, the only one
with any /road/ sense.

 

In context with all your comments, ie:

Perhaps I misunderstood, but you appear to have no problem with
speed traps. That's still a form of device controlled motoring
and removes any "common sense" approach. Christ, it's taken *how
long* to absolve ambulance drivers caught by GATSO's while
speeding to save someone's life?

 

Ah - I have no problem with them in 30's and the like, no.

I have problems with the mobile ones.