Spannery questions (RVF400RR)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Chris Reece, Jan 16, 2005.

  1. Chris Reece

    Chris Reece Guest

    Hey.

    Before I took the RVF off the road to give it the service it deserves,
    the exhaust started blowing, down under the sump where the two clamps
    hold the two front headers into the merger. So I bought a couple of
    clamps, to replace them come service time.

    I've just taken the two front headers off to find that it's not just
    the clamps that have gone. If I deduce rightly from the remains I
    have, the merger used to have a further two inches welded onto the
    front of it, some sort of sleeve that had gasket inside it, and into
    which the two front headers used to slide, before being clamped.
    They're fucked. Left pipe's just gone, down to the the weld line, and
    the other's terminal.

    Given that I'd never even looked at the exhaust before, and I've never
    spannered seriously on anything except old two-smoke trailies and
    aircooled VWs, neither of which have much by way of complicated exhaust
    systems, can someone just confirm for me that this is fatal, and I'll
    need a new merger? The Haynes BoL isn't much use: there are a couple
    of pictures but they don't tell me, for instance, that actually this is
    a replaceable part and it's just that my surviving one is so far rusted
    that I can't see.

    Oh, and a related question: when I cracked the nuts holding the front
    headers onto the studs, they pulled the studs from the head instead.
    They've come out clean, no galling, and I'm of a mind to pull the nuts
    from them, clean them up and and reset the studs in the head with some
    caselock, rather than use them like bolts when reassembling -- I fear
    the softness of the head compared to the steel of the stud.

    Any advice most appreciated.

    Chris.
     
    Chris Reece, Jan 16, 2005
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  2. Chris Reece

    Dave Emerson Guest

    Can't help with the first bit, as you need a parts microfiche for this
    model.

    Regarding the studs, your plan is the best root.

    Clean them by spinning in a drill-chuck and appling a light emery-paper.
    Fit into the heads using two nuts locked together, with Loctite in the head
    if you feel the need.

    Use "anti-sieze" copper grease on the exposed ends and (new if available)
    nuts.
     
    Dave Emerson, Jan 16, 2005
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  3. can't do the advice but I will say "hello and how are you doing,
    stranger?"
     
    Paul Corfield, Jan 16, 2005
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  4. Chris Reece

    Chris Reece Guest

    Not so bad, dude, not so bad. I've got no news really, since I last
    wandered past. The boy continues to grow, as do I, though he's growing
    up and I'm growing out. Parenthood is both a blessing and a curse --
    higher highs and lower lows. In fact I've taken to retiring to the
    garage for half an hour's peace to regain my wits. So many things my
    father used to make sense to me now. What I need is a poster of a
    tennis-player scratching her arse, though I doubt my wife would put up
    with that for too long. Some things have changed since my Dad's day.

    How's yourself? Still terrorising the streets of London with that
    scary stare?

    ;)
     
    Chris Reece, Jan 16, 2005
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  5. Chris Reece

    Chris Reece Guest

    Quite. To be fair, Transit Motorcycles in York are bloody good with
    greys like this, and the parts guy there (Andy, I think) is a patient
    and clued-up man. But he may fancy selling me a header, and I dread to
    think how much they cost. Last time I was through here someone gave me
    a great tip on repairing pitted fork legs that saved me a fortune, so
    I thought I might call on the collected wisdom of UKRM again. Not that
    I'm into cutting any corners with the RVF. Not figuratively.

    :)
     
    Chris Reece, Jan 16, 2005
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  6. Jolly good - at least life is not a disaster area. You'd had some bad
    luck bikewise last time so a lack of news can be seen to be a positive
    thing. Are you still living in York or have I misremembered?
    Parenthood - not something I'm likely to experience but the ups and
    downs I recognise from others.
    Not too bad thank you.
    I don't know what you mean.
     
    Paul Corfield, Jan 16, 2005
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  7. Get the parts fiche here - should give a reasonable idea of what has
    disintegrated...

    File: nc35partsmanual.pdf
    http://a.s-t-f.us/d.jsp?t=LXCAGAeNkKw24Mrvn3dkaXaj
     
    Douglas Waterston, Jan 17, 2005
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  8. Chris Reece

    Chris Reece Guest

    Aye, well, I seem to hit A&E every other year, so 2005 should be my
    year off.
    No, I was living in York, but I've moved out into the sticks of
    Humberside. It's a nice ride out from there to work on the RVF, when
    the weather's not so manky. And I get to do a little bit of green
    laning on the Bombardier. Unfortunately, though, my neighbour's a
    ****. Can't have everything.

    I suppose some bike-related news is that I "competed" in the Ryedale
    Rally in the Novelty Trail class on the Bombardier. I did very badly,
    though I did beat three out of the four squaddies who'd entered on
    medical corps Armstrong MT350s, which was nice.
    I'm sure you don't, old bean.
     
    Chris Reece, Jan 17, 2005
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  9. Chris Reece

    Chris Reece Guest

    Ta, and oh ****. According to F17 I read it right, and I'm going to
    need a new merger. Cha-ching.
     
    Chris Reece, Jan 17, 2005
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    Pip Guest

    When you speak to the parts bods, you may find that they more easily
    comprehend your needs if you refer to it as a "collector" or
    "collector box" rather than "merger".
     
    Pip, Jan 17, 2005
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    antonye Guest

    Hey yourself - wondered where you'd got to!
     
    antonye, Jan 17, 2005
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  12. Chris Reece

    Chris Reece Guest

    Oh, you know, around and about. *Still* didn't get my damn knee down
    last year, but I did get the pegs down twice.

    I see you've added another duke to the stable. Racing?
     
    Chris Reece, Jan 17, 2005
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  13. Chris Reece

    Chris Reece Guest

    Yeah, rings a bell. Dunno where I got "merger" from.

    This is the bit where I find out (again, because I keep forgetting)
    that both Bat and Transit are bloody closed on a Monday. Why, I don't
    know; there must plenty of people who need parts for greys on a Monday,
    either because they've been fettling on the Sunday and found something
    broken or they've been out for a spin and dropped it.

    Maybe they make more sales to trade than private.
     
    Chris Reece, Jan 17, 2005
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    antonye Guest

    antonye, Jan 17, 2005
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