Spady-thing stuck (electrical Q)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Nidge, Jul 5, 2005.

  1. Nidge

    Nidge Guest

    Traced a charging fault on Nita's NC30 back to the tab that connects the
    red&white wire taking power from the regulator/rectifier to the battery
    having corroded away from the spade endy bit in the wiring connector (white
    plastic 'box') .. The thing which attaches that lead + a green lights &
    ignition wire & 3 yellow wires bringing power from the alternator to the
    r/r.

    The problem's this - The copper spade-endy thing which grips the electrode
    of the r/r won't come out of the wiring connector....and until it does I ain
    't going to be able to shove a replacement one in to replace it.

    There seems to be some sort of plastic tab inside each wiring connector
    'compartment', I s'pose to help grip the r/r electrode, but even when I
    think I've shoved it back the spady thing's still stuck fast.

    I don't really want to replace the whole wiring connector cos the wiring is
    elderly and likely brittle. So first choice is get the spady thing out
    without wrecking the wiring connector.

    I managed to grip it with slim pliers but that just nibbled away bits of the
    thing rather than dislodging it. Poking at it from the other end with a
    screwdriver had no apparent effect except I stabbed my hand with a
    screwdriver on the third attempt.

    Any ideas how I get the thing out *without* destroying the white plasy
    connector 'box'?

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    Nidge, Jul 5, 2005
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    Nidge Guest

    Ah.. Should have said - I squidged it with permeating oil and its not
    totally immobile.... it will shift about 1mm.
    ie, Its not seized sort of thing.
    Its more somehow jammed or held in place by something ... but I can't figure
    what.

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    BOTAFOT#63 BOMB#5

    'Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand'.
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    (Simpson).
     
    Nidge, Jul 5, 2005
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    CampinGazz Guest

    If your describing what i think you are... a multiway connector block...
    oblong, with segments divided inside the outer oblong, in which the spade
    terminals are in.

    Then the spade terminals are held in the connector blocks with little tangs
    that stick out backwards, so once they are pushed home, they grip and resist
    being pushed out again... trying the pull the buggers out from behind
    results in the tang just digging in even harder.

    Way to get them out is to insert a small jewlers type screwdriver between
    the spade terminal and the box it lives in, if it's a female spade it's
    easier, as the tang will be on the flat side of the terminal.

    a male spade it could be on either side.

    If all else fails and it buggers the connector block up, you can get new
    ones from www.vehiclewiringproducts.co.uk they don't cost much, and i
    usually find it's easier to just replace the whole block, as if ones gone
    the other may follow soon after reparing the other one,

    If you were really stuck, you could remove the wires from the block all
    together, and put on normal insulated crimp on spade terminals, and push the
    relevent wires home on the regulator, just be sure to get the polarity right
    (i am thinking you just have one white connector block, the bit it mates to
    is part of the reg/rectifier unit?)

    if it's an in-line connector, then you can snip the offending wire wither
    side of the connector, and bypass the block using standard spades.

    But vehicle wiring products do most connectors found on vehicles today, they
    also handily do headlight connector blocks, and replacing them on my
    vehicles that are over 10 years old helped make the headlights brighter due
    to less voltage drop through the aging, loose and filthy connectors... not
    much help if the you get the dreaded wire cancer tho.. where moisture turns
    the wire black, only solution then is to cut back till you get good copper
    wire, and splice on a new section.
     
    CampinGazz, Jul 5, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    <snip useful info>

    Excellent. That should go in the faq.
     
    tallbloke, Jul 5, 2005
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  5. Nidge wrote
    The plastic tab thingy that you mentioned earlier, or a pressed out bit
    on the connector itself? All these types of component have this to stop
    them falling out of the big plastic bit that you can get hold of.

    Careful inspection and use of a properly sized and placed lever are your
    solution. That or a friend who knows what he is doing.
     
    steve auvache, Jul 5, 2005
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    SP Guest

    It's now in my favourites, you never know when it might come in handy
    :eek:)

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    SP, Jul 6, 2005
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