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Top rant indeed.

Mind you I particularly liked the bit where Tog pointed out he'd studied
law in france and england.

Mind you I think that "studying law" was a euphimism for time spent or
something...

 

The Older Gentleman :

Actually, Des is wrong. The criminal part of the deformation laws of
England also do not allow 'truth' to be used as a defence.

E.g. if you make a claim about someone - knowing full well that the
disclosure will cause them a lot of harm - even if it's true, you can
still be prosecuted for the damage you've done to them.

Note that what it is you reveal about them that damages them does not
have to be something that is immoral or illegal.

 

"Malicious libel"

You are indeed correct. It's very, very rare though. Covered in a course
I had to go on last year.

 

"For fucks sake, not again Murray.

Jesus, you said you had a legal background.

There's nothing for it, we're going to have to send you on a course so
you at least understand what you're doing wrong..."

 

I t ' s k i l l i n g m e t o d o t h i s......
AOL

 

Using the patented Mavis Bacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog

<starts stopwatch>

 

Heh. Not my fault if a mental case can't understand the difference
between deliberate maile aforethought and a blanket ban.

He's like the Vogons, you know. They used to read out their poetry
because they thought the universe would be interested and appreciate it.
When they discovered the universe hated it, they carried on doing it
anyway out of bloody-mindedness.

Same goes for Des's postings. He knows everyone thinks he's a lying twat
who should by rights be sectioned, and he knows everyone finds him about
as interesting as reading Mein Kampf in Serbo-Croat, but he still
posts....

 

Desmond Coughlan wrote

I did though.

 

<VBG>

I don't think there's been a malicious libel case for decades. Certainly
not a newspaper one. You have to prove malice, which makes it very
difficult. It's like criminal libel, which still exists but is hardly
ever used. Mary Whitehouse's action against Gay Times was, IIRC, the
last one and that was the first criminal libel action for a century or
more.

Compared with France, Britain has a remarkably free press, something the
Froggies (and the dimmer ex-pats who live there) can't quite grasp.

Mine Dew, I have a feeling that the German press is even more liberal -
a legacy of the post-WW2 reconstruction - but I know sweet FA about it.

 

Using the patented Mavis Bacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Desmond Coughlan

Christ but you're a boring little man.

 

Using the patented Mavis Bacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Desmond Coughlan

Septic? Eh? Not with you, sorry.

Killfile you? Well, you're like a scab that I can't stop picking at.

But you're still fucking boring.

 

And vice versa, if the tales are true.

 

Using the patented Mavis Bacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Desmond Coughlan

Well that's one way to put it. But since you ask people to followup your
posts so that Cab will see them, it also wouldn't be very effective,
would it?

 

Bwaaaaaaahaha!

Just snip 'em all.

 

Desmond Coughlan wibbled incoherently

Pots and fucking kettles come to mind here.

Des, all you've spouted is defamatory, insultive, inflammatory and
derisive bollocks since you decided to re-infest this newsgroup with
your pro-France shite. It's not as if you can even post anything
remotely on-topic, seeing as you don't have a bike any more.

Are you only posting here because someone's given you a kicking on
fr.rec.moto ?

I've no doubt that most of Bear's old sparring partners would gladly see
him return, if it meant that you'd **** off back to where you
belong..i.e. anywhere but here

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The Older Gentleman was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

Depends how you define 'liberal' - there is quite a lot of
self-censoring going on, and investigative journalism has never taken
off that well. The main test case for press freedom was the Spiegel
Affair in '62. Basically, the 'Spiegel' - the German weekly that would
like to be a slightly more leftish Economist but is a bit more
boulevard - printed an article about the Nato fall exercise in '62 and
hinted at plans that the Bundeswehr might go nuclear. Despite Augstein
(then editor of the Spiegel, and the founder of the mag) running this
info past some contacts he had at the BND, the power that were didn't
like the article, and some idiot rightish guy from the CSU alleged
treason and Augstein and a lot of the other editors working at the
Spiegel got locked up. That was too much for the of the media, and all
of them started protesting quite loudly. Or helping out.

AFAIK the police and some other rightish elements were happy that they
shut the Spiegel down[1] as the police was essentially camping out in the
Spiegel's offices, but AFAIK Axel Springer - not a big fan of the
Spiegel himself - allowed the use of his facilities so the remaining
journos could finish next week's edition. And they did. In the end,
all charges were dropped and the powers that be stopped resorting to
strong-arm tactics like this.

Oh, and don't mention Israel, will you? The kind of mild coverage you
get in the average UK newspaper would already provoke lots of outrage
and howls across the media in Germany. As it frequently does,
actually, as some papers actually started writing articles that don't
show Israel in that good a light.

[1] Police never liked them that much. Augstein was a liberal,
slightly leftish intellectual who took his 'Fourth Estate' role as
serious as only a German could. He made a lot of foes, but even the most
outspoken one (Franz-Josef Strauss) had a lot of respect for him.

 

Isn't he the extreme right-winger? S'pose I could google, but wtf...

 

Allons demander......

 

The Older Gentleman was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:

He was a Bavarian right-winger. They're bit of a curious bunch -
somehow they manage to be flanking Chengis Khan on the right and be
liberal about it. Hard to explain, we've got this saying that the stew
is never eaten as hot as it is cooked and that kind of sums it
up. Bavaria has fairly conservative/right-wing laws, but a lot of
those tasked with their enforcement are very likely to shrug, say 'Jo
mei'[1] and go to the beer garden instead. Someone said that Bavaria
is the missing piece of Italy that accidentally made it accross the
Alps.

[1] Impossible to translate, the meaning can be anything from 'Oh
well' - which would be a literal translation - to 'Ah **** it'. Bit
like 'manana' in Spanish.

 

Desmond Coughlan wibbled incoherently

Des said :

Yes it's predictable, but only because you keep trotting out the same
tired lines yourself. It's boring as ****, and not just to me, judging
by other responses.

We're the ones laughing, at your sad and self-imposed predicament

I don't try to look hard, I just get sick and tired of seeing the shit
you post. I think I am one of those who makes a worthwhile contribution
to this newsgroup in many of my posts.

It's no small wonder that you have people attempting to fire-bomb you ,
is it?

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