What does SORN mean when describing a bike without tax or test? Cheers taz.
Statatory Off Road Notice. It means that you will not be using or storing the bike on a public highway, and so it is not liable for tax. If you do use it, and the DVLA[1] find out, expect to have the book thrown at you. [1] I think the DVLA are the authority that will chase it up, but not entirely sure. Willing to be corrected.
SORN = Soaking Our Readies Needlessly It's another stealth tax, a means by which they screw 25 quid out of you (unless it's gone up) when you forget to fill out the form. What pisses me off is that we are presumed guilty unless we can prove ourselves innocent - even then we *still* have to pay. Imagine if you got a letter saying you were being fined for burglary. You say, "But I haven't commited a burglary". They reply: "It doesn't matter. You didn't post off your NBD (Non-Burglary Declaration) so as far as we're concerned you have." Why the hell do we put up with this shit? I didn't fight in two world wars etc. riccip
what pisses me off especially is that you have to renew the fuckin' SORN every year. FFS, if it's off the road, it's off. it should need no further action unless and until it's put back on the road again. cunts.
I think it was on Tue, 29 Jun 2004 22:01:17 +0100 that Austin Shackles Spoken like a man who forgot to renew his SORN <G> -- Rob Broseley, Shropshire 1991 Yamaha XV 535 Virago 1997 Rover 623GSi
Unless your "rusty heap" is like mine, i.e. the tax expired before 31/1/98 in which case it is exempt. One day I'll get it back on the road. -- Tim two#21, YGL#3 & BOTAFOT#84 Due to the limitations of current email, the lip movements may be out of synchronisation as you move your finger under the text while reading. tim dot ukrm2 at dsl dot pipex dot com
If you change any of its details or draw DVLA's attention to it in anyway then you need to be pretty snappy with tax or sorn. I have a feeling this is the precursor to the DVLA clearing its books a little. If the vehicle is not SORN'd or taxed by a certain date it will be assumed to have been scrapped and removed from the records. So you may have to inform them sooner or later. It's not as if you're being charged for it.
...and we are surprised how? A lot of this stems from a national desire to have the services but not pay any tax. Which commonly results in neither. The political mantra of making public services 'efficient', usually results in the services having to become self financing. We'll have pay for it some way. Directly, with accountability or indirectly without. The masses have been spoken for with regard to direct taxation and we find ourselves in the current situation.
Dr Ivan D. Reid () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : If it's never been taxed here, it won't be registered here, will it? All the import registration I've done has involved buying a tax disc at the time you get the number.
You didn't talk to the "nice man" at Swansea like I did on Tuesday then -- Tim two#21, YGL#3 & BOTAFOT#84 Due to the limitations of current email, the lip movements may be out of synchronisation as you move your finger under the text while reading. tim dot ukrm2 at dsl dot pipex dot com
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Austin Shackles Eh? What? Do they send out reminders for this then? I'm *sure* it's over a year since I SORN'd the Enfield, and I've heard nothing. Goes without saying, dunnit?
From the delightful INS163/2, "A SORN is valid for 12 months; a renewal reminder form will be sent to you about two weeks before your SORN expires." -- Tim two#21, YGL#3 & BOTAFOT#84 Due to the limitations of current email, the lip movements may be out of synchronisation as you move your finger under the text while reading. tim dot ukrm2 at dsl dot pipex dot com
