Sore Doodle

yes but i won't let clem dinky me anywhere

 

Having just caught up on the thread [and btw "**** you" to Sharks for
the creative snipping , bastard]. I'd suggest you're comparing apples
with oranges, and in fact that's also the case for the original thread.

The likelihood of size and strength being a significant factor in saving
or not saving a drop at speed on a road* at road speed is fairly small.
Balance and appropriate inputs are far more likely to be key. On the
other hand I'm very much with GS and IK on the appropriate size machine
for rider size OFF road - real off road not riding on dirt roads. I've
got plenty of experience and am reasonably strong, but there is no way
in hell I'd even consider riding a GS on anything other than bitumen or
decent dirt roads. But then again, a GS is quite frankly a crap bike for
ANYONE to be taking seriously off road, it's designed for poor roads not
NO roads. There's a reason all the off roads bikes weigh closer to
100Kg than 300..

All of Zebee's discussions centred around good to poor roads, IK and GS
were talking about real off roads, hence they were both right to some
extent (in my not particularly humble opinion).

JL
*specifically excluding racing - that's a different game

 

What is it? A giant gyroscope or a bike with a ton of concrete
strapped to it?

-----sharks

 

Indeed, whole heaps of inputs have to be different depending on the bike
(it's not just weight, but even riding position, rake/trail, tyres and
etc), your levels of grip, your likelihood of sliding and regripping to
highside you vs just sliding (see above) is different, but also what the
best way of trying to save it is.

If you ride exactly the same way regardless of whether you're on a
250sports, a heavy weight tourer, a cruiser or a dirt bike then you'd
better not be pushing them too hard...

It may be easier to recover light machinery in certain
circumstances,simply because of inertia - bigger mass doesn't want to
change direction easily, but then that mass can also be an advantage
(for example if you hit something on the road it's easier to keep a big
bike rubber side down)

JL

 

My point is you were wrong.

 

Still think you are trolling.
Still think you are kiwipete or James.

 

This troll is getting better all the time.

 

GS is megarider?


Johno

Beer mate?

 

Eh? You mean my honest question about the superbike school's
countersteering lessons?

-----sharks

 

Is that a pun on the "guy" for "go" typo/stuff up ?

It's a bike with two sets of handle bars - one normal set and then a set
above them which are fixed to the frame(so you can't accidently
countersteer), Code designed it to put the lean vs counter steer
argument to bed - it should be on the american website, if not a bit of
a google should unearth some info. The run down I read (I've not ridden
it) said it was amazing how much body english was required to get even a
small turn let alone do a figure of eight. It is possible to use body
weight but at anymore than about 20K (ie the point where countersteering
cuts in) weight movement had surprising little effect.

JL

 

As I suspected Nev, Kero Boy has no idea. I doubt he rides. Additional
weight of the rider is actually an impediment to quick changes of direction.

In your example, I suspect what will result is gravel rash.

Theo

 

It makes a difference if he is a Scot?

Theo

 

Yes, I got that.

Theo

 

Wasn't meant to be!

Good idea, too. It'd take forever to get a lean on if you didn't
countersteer.

-----sharks

 

Anything to get you out of the house eh?

Theo

 

Well maybe you can help me with this problem. I have a very large and if I
dress on the left it wears the tyre on the left ( same for the right ) . Now
if I got a large lead weight to balnace it out would that work or the extra
weight on the bike cause a severe lack of peformance in the motor


thx

 

Do BMW make a 'spine-frame' model?

Theo

 

Bullshit! I've never been highsided off my pocketbike!

 

You'd better put both hands on it and let your sheep steer the bike.

 

His wonderful wife died three years ago but he still won't accept the
fact and mentions her often as though she's still here.