Sore Doodle

Which misses the point that inertia can be both a plus and a minus - see
examples above.

And if you think that you can overcome the inertia of 250Kg at 100km/hr
I'd suggest you go consult IK for a physics lesson, you can only
redirect it, and yes in certain circumstances redirecting that mass
requires a bit of force, but most people have sufficient strength to do
that provided they put the right inputs in at the right times. If being
a power lifter was a big advantage the motoGP guys would be a very
different shape and size to what they are. Most of (with a couple of
exceptions) the sucessful bike racers over the last 50 years have been
comparatively small, Rossi and Xaus are the only two reasonably
successful ones I know of that would be of above average height and
there's *heaps* below average. And the tall ones are bean poles, they
aren't built like Arnie.

JL
(stop creating interesting arguments you bastids, I've got an assignment
I should be doing)

 

This is usenet, you mean a long thread ?

JL

 

No idea JL but you seem mature and sensible. {for an Aussie}

 

You've obviously not been reading my posts then.

Besides, I can't be mature, I've not bought a BMW yet.

JL
(Tim got old young, but then he found the time machine)

 

What's your reference for that statement?

GB

 

Interesting, shouldn't really happen easily as I understand the theory.
You must REALLY be a fat bastard*. Silliness aside, the gyrowhatsits of
the spinning wheels at a 100K should make it quite stable. The guzzi
doesn't have a stupidly steep rake as I recall ?

Certainly on the BinnedIt you could climb all over it without it
changing course, took a LOT of body english to get it to move around
even at lower speeds with the hands off.

JL
(*well hey it's been ages since I insulted anyone, I was getting out of
practise)

 

You never can tell. Sometimes we go on forever, others, we
sew up quite quickly.

GB

 

Watching your arse scraping on the road getting that Guzzi over was an
unerving experience last week.
Aren't you supposed to use your knee?

 

Holy home economics Batman. Are you cutting this thread short ?

JL

 

[sound of crickets chirping, picture of a blank page]


JL

 

If you've prevented a crash by holding it up on your knee then you're in
a very small minority if not a couple of hundred (I was counting that
number as the people who could do it at will as opposed to fluking it)

A control input by definition is something an effort used to control the
course or direction of a bike in the normal course of operation - by
your definition hanging off is a control input.

JL

 

Noice attempt at changing the subject, go back to the start of the
thread and re-read my point again.
(I'll summarise again for those who want to deliberately miss the point)

On road, being small and light is relatively irrelevant(1), off road
it's a whole different discussion.

JL
(1) yes reducto ad absurdum(2) will work, there is some point outside
the average adult human range where it will become a problem but you're
going to be scrabbling in the 1% of pop'n range to find it(3)
(2) is that the correct spelling ?
(3) I'd probably be smallest 1 or 2% of adult western males and I'm not
too worried about riding one on road(4) wouldn't even consider riding
one off road
(4) except for the traffic lights, jumping on and off all the time is a
pain (5)
(5) footnote inserted for no particular reason !

 

~
This is the thread that never ends...
...it just goes on and on, my friends.
Clem

 

[checks all 100-odd new posts on thread about his recent splat]
[nothing OT]

 

Conehead's an Arsehole!

 

baa

 

Can't pull the wool over _his_ eyes!

 

I'm with you, Clem. Just drank your last Fourex!

 

But the allegation wasn't that you couldn't change lanes at 100kph
using your body weight but whether you could save the bike from an
inevitable crash after losing traction by leaning. I can steer my bike
all over the place without touching the bars too, but that doesn't even
compare to the volume of steering input I can achieve by pushing on one
bar with my little finger.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

Was that ..........a sheep Pete?