Sore Arse...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by S.J. Ewen, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. S.J. Ewen

    S.J. Ewen Guest

    Hey guys... is it a common thing to end up staring at the sky 100 metres
    after getting a new rear tyre? Yes, I was taking it easy going round the
    90 degree turn... That was my first spill at a mere 5mph (if that).
    Busted my damn ankle, and top of my arse. I especially liked how the cars
    just drive past and ignore you. The two student guys who helped me out,
    got a well deserved pint. Scotspeed M'cycles in Dumfries were very helpful
    also, even makeshift fitted the rear footrest to get me home to decide what
    to do with it, but I just handed him the keys.

    So, thats a new mirror bracket, front foot rest and bar end I need. Plus
    some bending of the handlebars. Glad I bought engine bars btw, they
    worked. All that for a Suzuki Bandit 600Y ('00)... any guesses on how
    much it's likely to cost?

    Sigh...

    Stuart
     
    S.J. Ewen, Feb 25, 2004
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  2. S.J. Ewen wrote
    Only for muppets.

    Ahh. Snot all your fault then.

    It is your motorcycle, cost is irrelevant.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 25, 2004
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    Jeremy Guest

    Ouch - very sorry to hear that but you have my sympathy - did exactly
    the same ham-fisted thing on my Fazer a couple of weeks ago on a brand
    new pair of tyres, circa 100 yards from home. Couple of scrapes not much
    damage in my case. Luckiest thing of all was no neighbours spotted me...

    GWS
     
    Jeremy, Feb 25, 2004
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    Dan White Guest

    You have my sympathies. Yesterday I had to ride a Blackbird back from the
    garage with two new tyres and new discs and pads. In the rain. Over
    salt-encrusted roads.

    Fucking delicate does not do it justice.
     
    Dan White, Feb 25, 2004
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    Catman Guest

    That's a bugger. GWS

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    Catman, Feb 25, 2004
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    NP Guest

    Saw exactly the same thing over the weekend. A guy pulled away from
    the bike shop after having had some new tyres fitted and promptly
    binned it in front of many onlookers.
     
    NP, Feb 26, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    ... you maxi-mise your problem.
     
    Pip, Feb 26, 2004
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    flashgorman Guest

    He should take it one stepthru at a time.
     
    flashgorman, Feb 26, 2004
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    Alan.T.Gower Guest

    I thought this was another colonic irrigation thread.
     
    Alan.T.Gower, Feb 26, 2004
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  10. That's nova the idea
     
    Boots Blakeley, Feb 26, 2004
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    mb Guest

    You could try cleaning the super non-sticky crap off with solvent, which
    is what I did last time I had tyres fitted (on loose rims).
     
    mb, Feb 26, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    Isn't that supposed to be a_bad_idea? On the basis that the rubber's
    not properly heat-cycled yet and may be adversely affected by said
    solvents.

    I generally manage to 'scrub-in' a pair of tyres in an hour or so and
    have never experienced the described phenomenon. I've always put it
    down to simple ham-fistedness myself.
     
    Ace, Feb 26, 2004
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    mb Guest

    I have no idea about 'heat cycling', what's that supposed to do?
    The solvent I used is fairly non-agressive, I doubt if it has any effect
    on rubber.
    Well, same here. In the past, I've always taken it easy for 100 miles or
    so.
     
    mb, Feb 26, 2004
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    Ace Guest

    As the tyre is heated and cooled, its chemical properties will change
    slightly. This is possibly more important than the actual
    'scrubbing-in'.
    In which case it wouldn't have any effect at all.

    Where's SWK when you need them?
     
    Ace, Feb 26, 2004
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    Wik Guest

    Champ explained this to me once and I confess to not having taken it all
    on board. However, as I recall, it's more of an issue for race tyres but
    does generally apply to all tyres.

    Here:
    http://www.ssapubl.com/html/tech tips/may 2003.htm

    'Cause of this, the tyre has a finite lifespan.
    TBH, it's a personal preference thing. I know I'd only resort to using
    any sort of solvent on my tyres if there was summat nasty like chain-lube
    from ham-fistedness on 'em.
    Weather permitting, I've always taken it fairly steady for the first 20
    miles or so and then deliberately and progressively wound it on to try and
    get 'em "scrubbed" asap.

    As another poster said, it'd be an utter arse to just potter around for
    100 miles or more /thinking/ you were "scrubbing in" only to still have
    FOAD shiny chicken strips on the things which you forget after 101 miles
    and end up lobbing it.
    :)

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    Wik, Feb 26, 2004
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  16. When he fell off, he just moped around.

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 26, 2004
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    sweller Guest


    Putting solvents on the tyre is a stupid idea. Up there with
    sandpaper/wire brushes to 'scrub' them in.

    I found with a normal road bike with normal tyres [1], take it easy for
    10 miles or so to get some heat in the tyres then ride as normal.

    Its getting the tyres hot that 'scrubs' them in. The heat changes the
    chemical properties of the tyre, as its designed to. All part of the
    'curing' process. Once they're hot they're done.

    My experiences of doing it the "Champ Way", google group ref.
    http://tinyurl.com/ytqem


    [1] Alright, the bike isn't normal. The tyres are BT45s and skinny
    120/90x18
     
    sweller, Feb 26, 2004
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    Dan White Guest

    Proving to be a problem with me... Now done 25 miles on new front *and*
    rear. 10 miles in pissing down rain, followed by 15 miles in driving snow.
    I'm thinking my tyres haven't warmed up yet :)
     
    Dan White, Feb 26, 2004
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    mb Guest

    The idea behind this was just to clean off the slippy stuff which seems to
    be on new tyres.
     
    mb, Feb 26, 2004
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    mb Guest

    So why bother at all then? As tyres get pretty hot when they're moulded.
     
    mb, Feb 26, 2004
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