Son down (mildly)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by The Older Gentleman, Feb 25, 2008.

  1. The Older Gentleman

    Timo Geusch Guest

    R90S have been out of winter hack territory for a long time and only a
    heathen would use one as such.

    For starters I don't think the Italian carbs would take to nicely to the
    shite on the roads.
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 27, 2008
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  2. The Older Gentleman

    Hog Guest

    <looks at sig>
    I've been using the RS for a couple of days after getting it back from the
    IoM. It is just so comfortable, the fairing is amazing and it keeps my feet
    and calfs warm.
    The Hawker Odyssey battery fired it up first time after sitting at the IoM
    airport for 7 months. All I did was drain the bowls first. Once the discs
    were cleaned off and the tyres given 4psi both ends it was back to normal.
    Like most Beemers it is undergeared in top and 100mph is way too close to
    the red line, cruising has to be 85.

    You won't get a good low miles RS Mono under 2 grand. Plenty older models
    around but they handle less well and have too many maintenance niggles for
    my liking.

    A K100RS is probably a better hack, certainly cheaper, it just needs that
    fairing!
     
    Hog, Feb 27, 2008
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  3. The Older Gentleman

    Hog Guest

    It isn't really the linking I didn't like, though I never want that on a
    bike (1), but the sudden and over eager application the servo introduces.
    Servo brakes on a bike are an insane idea, completely unecessary.

    (1) I have no idea why anyone would want the loss of control input linked
    brakes introduce
     
    Hog, Feb 27, 2008
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  4. The Older Gentleman

    Timo Geusch Guest

    That's partially true for the fully linked system on the RT but I didn't
    find it too bad on the GSA. I think there's a modification out there for
    the RT to make it less abrupt.
    Possibly, but then again people have been saying this about ABS, disk
    brakes, brakes in the front wheel etc as well.

    While I wouldn't buy a bike simply because it had servo brakes or linked
    brakes, I don't mind them.
    Not all of us are superheros on those lardy old barges...
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 27, 2008
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  5. The Older Gentleman

    Hog Guest

    But technology should contribute something or it's extra weight and cost for
    nothing. Even a 6 y'o child can apply enough strength to make good
    motorcycle brakes squeal the tyres.
    Ride on ice/snow/gravel with linked brakes!
     
    Hog, Feb 27, 2008
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  6. The Older Gentleman

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Yes, but weren't we talking about BMW brakes?
    Done the gravel bit with partially linked brakes, didn't find that too
    offensive. I'm not attempting this with the RT if I can help it, mind.
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 27, 2008
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  7. The Older Gentleman

    Hog Guest

    Which have been excellent since about 1987 IIRC!!
     
    Hog, Feb 27, 2008
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  8. The Older Gentleman

    T i m Guest

    Hmmm,

    My 91 R100RT (Mono) has probably the worst back (drum) brake of any
    bike I've ever owned, including the NSU Quickly and the 350 Madras
    Bullet!

    Different rear shoes and even a new wheel made little difference.

    However, the fronts are ok and even the rear can be persuaded to make
    the rear tyre leave a feint black stripe down the road (the stupid
    woman in the car in front decides to stop fast AND reverse towards me
    just because a coach was filling the entire road ahead <sigh>. She
    should have known I was 'enjoying' the Cornish roads, was two up,
    fully loaded and towing a trailer ... ).

    GWS to TOG Jnr, especially relevant as my 17yr old has just started
    out on her 125 Skipper and may move onto my CB250 when she takes her
    test.

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Feb 27, 2008
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  9. The Older Gentleman

    Hog Guest

    <looks at sig>

    My RS has a perfectly adequate rear brake which has never given me a moments
    thought!
     
    Hog, Feb 27, 2008
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  10. The Older Gentleman

    T i m Guest

    Is that a disk on the rear of an RS though?

    Ok, I'd say my rear brake is 'adequate', it just isn't as good as most
    other bikes I've ridden and maybe that's why I question it?

    The only other bike I've ridden with a worse rear was my mates 1350
    FLXLVXLFLX Harley .. (and I really thought the rear brake was
    disconnected!) :-(

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Feb 27, 2008
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  11. The Older Gentleman

    Hog Guest

    No it's a drum and should be identical. It is not overly powerful. I like
    it that way.
     
    Hog, Feb 27, 2008
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  12. The Older Gentleman

    SD Guest

    Done that. Next question?
     
    SD, Feb 27, 2008
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  13. The Older Gentleman

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    They're old bikes so they're winter hacks. Expensive and very nice
    winter hacks but that doesn't mean they're something different.
    I wouldn't want to go far on it, maybe to Germany once a year.

    I wanted an R90S when they first came out in the '70s and they're
    still a lovely bike to look at even if they're tired old beasts now.
    It's a shame that BMW didn't bring out something similar to keep the
    line going over the next few years but I think the price would have
    scared most people away.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 27, 2008
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  14. The Older Gentleman

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:05:11 +0000, Timo Geusch

    snip>
    I didn't find the K100 as much of a problem as I expected to when it
    chucked down snow in Germany but it's a big old unit when you're
    having to use your feet as skis.

    I've not found it too much of an issue to throw it around through
    bends over here but I was brought riding barges and it's like going
    back to my youth again when it starts to wallow when you nail it on
    twisty roads.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 27, 2008
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  15. The Older Gentleman

    Hog Guest

    Yes but you do lots of crazy stuff anyway
     
    Hog, Feb 27, 2008
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  16. Try a K1100LT like mine. I'm still impressed that a 15 year-old bike can
    be so bloody good at what it does. Cheap to run, as well.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 27, 2008
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  17. The Older Gentleman

    platypus Guest

    I've owned two R100/7s and an R80RT mono, and the back brakes on all of them
    were perfectly adequate.
     
    platypus, Feb 27, 2008
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  18. The Older Gentleman

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I'm quite happy with my manky old K100RS at the moment. My wanting an
    old R100 is more to do with owning one previously and not quite
    understanding that things have moved on a long way since then.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 27, 2008
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  19. The Older Gentleman

    Timo Geusch Guest

    That's bad, because on these you *really* need the rear brake.
     
    Timo Geusch, Feb 27, 2008
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  20. The Older Gentleman

    T i m Guest

    Hmmm, ok, let me rephrase this just to see if it's just me (or my
    bike).

    Although the rear brake on my 35k 91 RT seems to work, it seems it
    might take much more (much) pressure to make it work than any bike
    I've owned before?

    All the best ..

    T i m
     
    T i m, Feb 27, 2008
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