Something To Think About

<> I Post this, mainly because it explains a Historical part of How
the U.S. Constitution came about and how important Religious Faith was
over 200 years ago! I don't know if this piece is true. I have not
visited the U.S. Capitol.
If it is true, some will appreciate the content, and some will not. I am
not a very religious man, but, I appreciate the principles, of how, our
country was founded by our foreFathers. Hope this post doesnt offend
anyone. ..ßjåy...
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U.S. ten commandments and Christian influence
DID YOU KNOW?
As you walk up the steps to the building which houses the US Supreme
Court you can see near the top of the building a row of the world's law
givers
and each one is facing one in the middle who is facing forward with a
full
frontal view -- it is Moses and he is holding the Ten Commandments!
DID YOU KNOW?
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have
the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.
DID YOU KNOW?
As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall, right above where
the Supreme Court judges sit, a display of the Ten Commandments!
DID YOU KNOW?
There are Bible verses etched in stone all over the Federal Buildings
and Monuments in Washington, DC
DID YOU KNOW?
James Madison, the fourth president, known as "The Father of Our
Constitution" made the following statement "We have staked the whole of
all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for
self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern
ourselves, to control
ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of
God."
DID YOU KNOW?
Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country said, "It
cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation
was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but
on the Gospel of Jesus Christ."
DID YOU KNOW?
Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher, whose
salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.
DID YOU KNOW?
Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the
established orthodox churches in the colonies.
DID YOU KNOW?
Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would overstep their authority
and instead of interpreting the law would begin making law....an
oligarchy....the rule of few over many.
DID YOU KNOW?
The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said, "Americans should
select and prefer Christians as their rulers."
How, then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for
220 years in this country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?
Please forward this to everyone you can. Lets put it around the world
and let the world see and remember what this great country was built on.

‹›Håvé Gøøð ðå¥, åmîgø‹›ßjåy‹›

 

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For some additional info on this, please see:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/capital.asp

And, no, I wasn't offended. Urban legends and usenet postings are
somewhat of a hobby of mine.

I know, get out and ride more.

 

Not anything to do with motorcycles!!!!!!!

 

Your impatience is understandable.. Just bear with a for a little while
furthur.. Mark Johnson is busily discrediting himself, even more.. Thanks..

 

Whew... what the hell do you care, anyway ? Me and others on this newsgroup
have requested you to start a thread that does have something to do with
motorcycles.. The response from you has been deafening... "NOTHING"...

There are threads in this group that describe rides and discuss motorcycle
related issues.. The only threads that you seem interested in are the ones
in which you respond by complaining of "no motorcycle content".. Either STFU
with you nonsense or post something...

 

<>below is my original post/topic, about the Ten Commandments being in
all Federal Buildings.etc. I received this by email, and thought it was
interesting, from a historical stand point. I don't think it has
offended anyone. I have learned some stuff,from this ongoing thread of
thought, in this most knowledgeable NG. One person, responded to this
subject by saying ''what does this have to do with motorcyles..'' I told
him that it shows that we're not just a bunch of dumb bikers, and that
we like discussing a variety of subjects. One final note, no one ever
wins in a discussion about Religion, and politics. But its interesting
to discuss, and historically always has been a popular topic.
I certainly didnt know of some of the faiths mentioned, excisted in
America.
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(original post)(12.28.04)
<> I Post this, mainly because it explains a Historical part of How the
U.S. Constitution came about and how important Religious Faith was over
200 years ago! I don't know if this piece is true. I have not visited
the U.S. Capitol.
If it is true, some will appreciate the content, and some will not. I am
not a very religious man, but, I appreciate the principles, of how, our
country was founded by our foreFathers. Hope this post doesnt offend
anyone.     ..ßjåy...

‹›‘Have a Good'un’›››BJAY›››

 

absolutely correct, articles of faith cannot be argued by reason.
unfortunately some people will use that for attacks in a variety of
forms. the historical record is clear on that over centuries of human
existance, much of it not very pretty. America is a rare beacon of light
shining protection upon the minority from the tyranny of the majority.
some people can't stand that sort of freedom.

Popular because many will argue it, but it's a circular argument after a
while and goes nowhere. Usually best avoided, imo.

When you have a country that draws people from all over the world, they
will be bring their traditions with them. By the third generation of
that immigrant family, they are thoroghly assimilated into American life
while also cognizant of their own cultural roots, thereby adding to the
complex tapestry that is America. Naturally this occurs first in the
major Ports of Entry where the immigrants first settle, then move on
after a generation or two. It is a unique strength that no other
country in the world can match and is likely one of the main reasons we
have been successful as a nation. This is something to be enjoyed and
celebrated as it would be terribly boring if we were all the same.

FWIW, we had a great Thai dinner last nite, New Years Eve, in a small
restaurant run by Thai immigrant family. Blackeyed peas and a roast
turkey etc were on the menu today while Tex-Mex was the dinner two nites
ago and Italian the nite before that. Cultural diversity works out
rather well if you let it happen and all parties are willing to
participate
(but i'm still not at all sure about haggis. <g>)

 

<>!!<>~FWIW, we had a great Thai dinner last nite, New Years Eve, in a
small restaurant run by Thai immigrant family. Blackeyed peas and a
roast turkey etc were on the menu today while Tex-Mex was the dinner two
nites ago and Italian the nite before that. Cultural diversity works out
rather well if you let it happen and all parties are willing to
participate
(but i'm still not at all sure about haggis. <g>)
--
Iron Butt Assoc., WATR 4X, BL3 paparazzi,
" - Jonathon Swift
<><><><><><>><><><<>><><<>><><><
above is your last paragraph of some intersting view points and a some
historical information, about this ongoing discussion of American
Reigion/Faiths, and traditionally how so many other Faiths have come
about.
<>I like your summation of how you and yours, celebrated the last day of
2004. I did notice, there was no Pork mentioned. Are you certain those
blackEyed Peas, were not seasoned by some good old ham hock? (kidding)
I'Ve enjoyed our exchange of views, & hope all is well, and hope no
feelings were stepped on<>!!<>

‹›‘Have a Good'un’›››BJAY›››

 

oh there was a good dose of bacon in with the peas as well as a touch of
jalpeño. it varies depending upon what's immediately available.

hey, i'm cool, i have no problem exchanging views with people who have
an open mind and don't lose it when someone says something different.
things like that can be difficult on usenet because there is no good
method of seeing the expression on the posters face to clarify the words
typed, hence the emoticons that get used to some extent. presumably
there is a common ground found and everyone learns something to their
mutual benefit. there are always those who won't open up and are locked
into their own particular dogma for whatever reasons. those folks don't
do so well in this eviron because there is a sense of freedom from
normal convention and conduct that people wouldn't do in person. that's
usually a follow-on to the difficulties they similarly face in day to
day existence and dealing with people. it gets magnified here.

fwiw, have you ever scanned the manual about "nettiquette" ? it does
exist and it is the protocols for posting on usenet amongst other
things. it's a worthwhile read and explains many of the conventions
used, how and why they came about and why they are a good idea to
follow. one of my favorite summations:

A: It destroys the logical flow of discourse
Q: Why is top posting frowned upon ?


other pearls of netwisdom can be found here:
http://www.albion.com/netiquette

 

Not hardly... sleaze... IF you ever worked up enough balls to tell me that
my wife was posing on one of your disgusting porn sites.. or that my son
neglected my grand daughter and caused her death... I stomp your pus gutted
ass ... You know that.. That's why you tried to remain an anonymous son of
a bitch for so long.. That's why you tried to hide your name when you
thought there was a chance I'd walk in on your sorry ass..

Better add another .. This one is mine... "Never... Never attack another
posters family.. i.e. wife.. mother... children ... Never ... Ever ...
accuse a man of molesting his child or neglect her and cause her death...
And one more for the road ..John Moran... Never.. Never .. allow Bill Walker
to Ever.. EVER... catch your sorry ass out in the open, after you have
committed all those crimes against him...

 

Stop it AV, I don't know how you do it...the game warden will get you,
you gotta be over ur limit for the day...

Why, you've even got'em coming up with their own bait.


...louie

 

Group Hug... shithead.... Did you deliver that message, yet... ooops..
forgot... the"handler" reads the newsgroup.. huh.. sport ??

 

Translation: damn.. that ol' boy is strappin' it on your sorry ass, AV...
Can't think of anything else to help.. so I'll talk about this fishin'
shit.. some more.. hmmm maybe none of the guys in here ever went fishin' and
that'll distract 'em...

No way... dum.. dum... John Moran fired his ass with his sleazy bullshit..
Notice... you and I are about all he's got.. Even most of the people who
don't like me, won't tolerate a sleaze like him... Just another sleaze would
try to defend the sorry bastard....

 

and as you can see, BJ, some people like Bill are happy to insult and
curse others to no end until someone flames him back in return. then he
takes it oh-so-personally. he forgets how abusive he has been for so
long to so many other people now that his feelings have been hurt.
Bill loves to give it, loves to start the insults and cursing but he
can't take it in return without getting all huffy. any disagreement
with him quickly devolves into the same old four letter diatribe.
That's why he's on so many ignore lists and is the source of endless
jokes in the motorcycle groups, a perfect example of someone who is
closed minded and locked into their own dogma to their own detriment on
usenet.
oh well....

 

you know how when you go out to the goldfish pond, and they all come up
to the top looking to be fed ?
same thing. stupid fish.

 

dood, i think you got a nibble......

 

Translation : sheesh... that dude is relentless.. He's pounding my ass
with all this sleazy shit I've pulled .. Damn.. can't even change the
subject, can I ....LMAO...

Sorry crud.. your sleaze selling days are almost over...

 

actually you served a good example for that discussion. thank you.

carry on.

 

Translation: Damn... what's up with this guy.. hmmm.. I know.. I'll make a
profound comment and appear justified..

No way in hell scumbag... You shit in your pants on this newsgroup, a long
time ago.. Even the new guys on the group have scoped out your sleazy
character.. Did I offer you a way out.. Sure I did.. Ask me..

 

~~~~<><>~~~~~and as you can see, BJ, some people like Bill are happy to
insult and curse others to no end until someone flames him back in
return. then he takes it oh-so-personally. he forgets how abusive he has
been for so long to so many other people now that his feelings have been
hurt. Bill loves to give it, loves to start the insults and cursing but
he can't take it in return without getting all huffy.   any
disagreement with him quickly devolves into the same old four letter
diatribe. That's why he's on so many ignore lists and is the source of
endless jokes in the motorcycle groups, a perfect example of someone who
is closed minded and locked into their own dogma to their own detriment
on usenet.
oh well....
--Another Viewer~~
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I don't know crap from cronola, about some of the ''knockdown/dragout''
discussion going. I judge any ones remarks at face value, of course, in
here it's ''phrase value'' (Grin). Disagreeing is part of the discussion
between folks. To me, it would be boring to come in here and read down
the line, the new post, and at the end, (bottom posting), type in
''well said'', 'I agree'', ''blah,blah,blah''
I expect, not to totally agree. I can always find one paragraph, and
make a contriversary out ot it, and you know you can too. I know Louie
and mark can. Mark is one of the best. But, that's a healthy
manner/skill to get others in on it. One more thing: I laugh, when I see
how a
''subject about the 10 Commandments''
has turned into such a ''heated'' thread, of nothing similar to original
post. Don't get me wrong, I have read down the line, it's just hard for
me to respond to somehing I know nothing about.

‹›‘Have a Good'un’›››BJAY›››