[QUOTE="Timo Geusch"] I'd get the quality of the grapes assessed first unless you either plan to make cheap Balsamico or rent it out to someone who does. The plants might be past their prime, suffer from any sort of weird disease, too young, wrong grape for the soil or a myriad of other issues. Then get some local-ish expert assess what you can rent it out for, see if that makes sense financially. I wouldn't want to do it myself as growing decent grapes is a little bit of an art form. If it checks out I actually like the idea if it works as a second, passive income stream for you to bolster retirement. Plus you probably get a couple of decent bottles out it the deal, too.[/QUOTE] Well, this is coming from the biz class cabin of a BA 747 sitting in Sao Paulo after a very bumpy descent and a hard landing. It's absolutely chucking it down. And we're delayed because the plane was struck by lightning on the descent and they're checking everything. So we're sitting in the cabin, having flown in from Buenos Aires, and the aircraft is half-empty because they're not letting the SP people on board until the aircraft has been given the A-OK...... They've actually turned on the in-flight entertainment for us, which suggests the wait might be a long one. (I heard the departing pilot - they change crews at SP - telling the incoming flight deck crew that it was "quite an interesting approach" which I guess is pilot-ese for 'bloody hairy'). Anyway, we're going for it, subject to assessment by a good agronomist (we know where to find one), a good lawyer (we have one), and after some hard talking with SWK. I'm blessing the day I started cultivating contacts in Chile.... Because these days I know a very good wine maker, any number of agro-industry people, someone in the Ministry of Agriculture, a nurseryman who grows grape vines for planting, an expert on irrigation and an agronomist, just for starters..... The advice we've been given is to rent out the vineyard for at least three years to begin with. That is obviously less profitable than running it ourselves (which would be a disaster) or paying someone to manage it (probable ditto), but it is essentially risk-free. And then, maybe, we can buy some more land, or have a stab at it ourselves, or just maintain the status quo. Basically, this plot should provide a gross income of some £30k from grape - rental value, well, we'll see what the lawyer says. I'm guessing at about US,000 a year (Average per capita income in Chile is USk, if you're interested). It's not intended to be our main living anyway. And at US0,000, the various SWKs concur it's a good purchase. We'll need to spend another £150k (yes, that's sterling), I reckon, on what we want to do with it. We'll need a decent (small) commercial-quality kitchen, a small swimming pool, and two guest cabins for starters. Plus some work on the barn to turn part of it into a workshop. If it turns into catastrophe, well, that's the luck of the draw, but this is probably the last chance we'll ever have to do something truly life-changing that offers the opportunity of improving our quality of life immeasurably. "Oh,that a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?"