Sodding MZ

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by The Older Gentleman, Apr 18, 2009.

  1. Bought it back from Lone Wolf. Collected it from his gaff. Its starting
    abilities were dmonstrated. Back at the Chateau, on the trailer, and it
    starteth not.

    Not.

    At.

    All.

    Bah
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 18, 2009
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. It's only doing it to annoy you, you know. The MZ manual used to have a
    section on fault-finding which had something about "shortage of volts in the
    electrical system".

    'course, shortage of petrol is the favourite. Not got the tap off, has it?
     
    Austin Shackles, Apr 18, 2009
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. The Older Gentleman

    crn Guest

    You have most likely flooded the bastard. They all do that sir.

    The same thing happened to me with the Jawa, there is a magic ritual
    which must be followed exactly OR ELSE.

    First dry out the plug and check that the battery is charged and you
    get a good fat spark. Now drain out the surplus fuel from the
    crankcase if it has a plug in the bottom (some dont).

    For the Jawa the ritual is as follows :-
    Turn on the fuel, depress the tickler and count onecrocodiletwocrocodile
    Do not open the throttle. Switch on the ignition and give it a sharp
    kick. If it fires open the throttle slightly to keep it running.

    If it has not fired by the third kick something is wrong.

    If the above does not work the MZ ritual is not the same as the Jawa,
    Get the seller to demonstrate EXACTLY the ritual which he probably
    does not realise he is following.
     
    crn, Apr 18, 2009
    #3
  4. I'm beginning to think so.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 18, 2009
    #4
  5. The Older Gentleman

    Timo Geusch Guest

    TOG should be able to demonstrate the ritual to himself. IIRC he owned
    this particular bike before.
     
    Timo Geusch, Apr 18, 2009
    #5
  6. wrote:

    Wotcha.

    Ye olde MZ starting ritual.

    Petrol = on
    Choke = on
    Ignition = OFF
    Kick two or three times
    Choke = off
    Ignition = ON
    Kick - and away it goes .

    That's the Wilf Green tried and tested method - it has worked, without fail,
    every time I have gone to use the bike.

    I reckon this MZ is just doing it to be awkward.
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, Apr 18, 2009
    #6
  7. Timo Geusch wrote:

    Wotcha.
    I bet he'll never want to own another one after today.




    <runs for cover>
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, Apr 18, 2009
    #7
  8. We've had the fuel on and off. Choke open and shut. We've bumped the
    fucking thing half a mile, I reckon. We've heated the plug till it
    glows. We have fuel getting hrough to the plug. We have a spark. We have
    compression. We have no ignition.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 18, 2009
    #8
  9. The Older Gentleman

    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué <1iydxg1.15df65fwvobxyN%>,
    But is the spark at the right time?

    --
    +----------------------------------------------------------------+
    | Pete Fisher at Home: |
    | Voxan Roadster Gilera Nordwest * 2 Yamaha WR250Z |
    | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------+
     
    Pete Fisher, Apr 18, 2009
    #9
  10. The Older Gentleman

    Pip Luscher Guest

    ....and strong enough to actually spark in the cylinder?

    I imagine that if it is flooded and has bee turned over with the plug
    out then it would at least have coughed.
     
    Pip Luscher, Apr 18, 2009
    #10
  11. The Older Gentleman

    crn Guest

    If you screw up the ritual and flood it they are a black enamelled bastard
    to start. Welcome to the world of SO 2smokes.

    If you have flooded it you need to get all of the excess fuel out of the
    crankcase. If there is no drain plug petrol off, plug out, wide open
    throttle and push it a mile or so. Plug back in, kick a few times, if the
    plug gets wet repeat until it comes out dry.

    Then apply the correct ritual.

    One final thought - the spark points cam on those has been known to
    move, messing up the timing. Worth checking that the points actually
    open at the right time. Unlikely if it started when you collected it
    but worth checking if all else fails.
     
    crn, Apr 18, 2009
    #11
  12. The Older Gentleman

    Krusty Guest

    You might want to stop now, before people really start taking the piss.

    --
    Krusty

    '03 Tiger 955i
    '02 MV Senna (for sale) '96 Tiger (for sale)
    '79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
     
    Krusty, Apr 18, 2009
    #12
  13. The Older Gentleman

    SteveH Guest

    Once you get it started, ensure you leave it ticking over on your drive,
    to get it nice and warm.....
     
    SteveH, Apr 18, 2009
    #13
  14. The Older Gentleman

    YTC#1 Guest

    He does that to a lot of bikes ... some only go 53 feet :)
     
    YTC#1, Apr 18, 2009
    #14
  15. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Krusty
    "Too late, Ethel!"

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

    I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
    change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
    go and talk to the Catholics.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 18, 2009
    #15
  16. Oily wrote:

    Wotcha.
    'Ere - show it this :->>
    http://www.moonshiners.org.uk/MZgoeswelsh.htm
    Should remind it of what life is all about.

    There again, venturing into Wales ain't always a good thing ;-)
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, Apr 19, 2009
    #16
  17. The Older Gentleman

    crn Guest

    Hmmm - I wonder if all that bouncing around on the trailer has stirred
    up all the shite in the tank and shitted up the carb.
     
    crn, Apr 19, 2009
    #17
  18. wrote:

    Wotcha.
    Now there's a thought. There is a small filter bowl on the bottom of the
    fuel tap, but it may not have caught everything.
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, Apr 19, 2009
    #18
  19. And bouncing around on its own wheels wouldn't?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 19, 2009
    #19
  20. No, fuel is getting into the cylinder all right. The plug's getting wet.
    Too much fuel if anything.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 19, 2009
    #20
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.