SOBMW Battery

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Statto, Jan 13, 2008.

  1. Statto

    Statto Guest

    Or, paging Hog, Burnt, Bonwick, Timo and anyone else with a shite old
    K Series BMW. How the **** do you get at the battery - as far as I can
    tell, access is under the tool tray, but I can't work out how to get
    the tool tray out.
     
    Statto, Jan 13, 2008
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    The Older Gentleman, Jan 13, 2008
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  3. Statto

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Undo loads of random bits that surround it until it comes out.

    http://www.ibmwr.org/ktech.shtml

    This site normally has a 'how to' guide to almost every job you'll
    need to do but the fucker doesn't seem to be working right now.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 13, 2008
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  4. Statto

    Statto Guest

    I'd better get the angle grinder out then, along with the trusty
    selection of anglo-saxon utterances.
    Ta.
     
    Statto, Jan 13, 2008
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  5. Statto

    ts Guest

    From faint memory: lift up at the back, then pull backwards. Wiggle out
    the Motronic control unit (I have managed this without disconnecting the
    cable); then you get access to the battery bolts. Then I think I rotated
    the battery itself longitudinally, and tilted it to be able to lift it
    out (make sure the vent opening is blocked so you do not spill battery
    acid).

    Obviously this arrangement fauvours replacing it with a maintenance-free
    new one - I do not look forward to the next acid-level check time.

    HTH
     
    ts, Jan 13, 2008
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  6. Statto

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Been a while since I had to take one out. Does yours have ABS?

    IIRC you have to disconnect the ECU(s), pull the one on top of the
    battery (careful, it's wont to lose at least one of its rubber feet, and
    they are necessary to insulate it from vibration). I think you may ...

    Ah fuggit.

    <goes to check Clymer manual>

    The battery removal section is 1 1/2 frigging pages long. Supposedly,
    the tool tray has a hole in it on the lhs side as you sit on the
    bike. They suggest you stick a (long) screwdriver in there and push the
    handle forward, which should unlock the tooltray (after you've removed
    the cover on the ECU connector). Don't blame me if it doesn't work like
    that...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 13, 2008
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  7. Statto

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I'm sure it wasn't too much of a job on the K100 but it might be
    significantly different on the K75

    I'll pop out to the garage and see if I can find the HBOL and email
    you a description if Burnt doesn't happen along and give you the full
    story.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 13, 2008
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  8. ROFL.

    *Classic*

    The BMW Recipe For Building A Motorcycle:

    "Take a Battery and a Clutch and then weld tubes closely around and over
    them....

    <Horrifying thought>

    They did change the battery location for the K1100LT, didn't they?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 13, 2008
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  9. Statto

    deadmail Guest

    1. Remove the seat to give you more room.

    2. Take off the left hand side panel.

    3. remove the ECU cover under the left hand side panel (if present), if
    not, apply pressure (to the left) to the right hand of the cable
    connector (there's a latching mechanism) and pull the cable to swing out
    towards you.) If this doesn't unlatch then remove the other sidepanel
    and look for a black plastic 'plug' which keeps the ECU attached to the
    plastic tray thing it sits in, then pull the ECU out.

    4. Remove the black plastic tray that the ECU sat in.

    5. Get an impact driver and remove the two long screws that hold the
    battery retaining strap in place. It might be difficult to get at these
    but be very careful, they have steel fastners going into alloy and add a
    bit of salt water and not enough grease and these will be hard to
    remove.

    6. Remove battery connections.

    7. Twist battery through 90 degrees and wobble the fucker out.

    Assembly is the reverse of disassembly but make sure you clean the
    battery mount threads and use plenty of copper-slip or similar on them.

    Shouldn't take more than 20 minutes in all.
     
    deadmail, Jan 13, 2008
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  10. Statto

    deadmail Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) wrote in message
    No. But the ECU is attached differently so it's not quite so much of a
    pain.
     
    deadmail, Jan 13, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    While we're on the subject of SOBMW's: are the panniers that come on a
    K1200RS likely to have changed substantially in shape and volume from
    the older ones?

    I've taken a bit of a punt and paid £25 + p&p for a new set of pannier
    inners (brand new but copies) but they're for the newer 1200 rather
    than the older piece of shit I actually own.

    I suppose that if they don't fit then I can always Nige them out and
    try to cover my costs.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 13, 2008
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    That section was further back in the manual - the procedure is different
    but IIRC it's not much shorter. You just have to remove different bits &
    pieces...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 13, 2008
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  13. Statto

    Timo Geusch Guest

    You've got a K100, right?

    Chances are they won't fit as the shape has changed considerably. Still,
    if they don't fit give me a shout as there's a good chance that they'll
    fit my RT...
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 13, 2008
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  14. Out of interest, what happens to the ECU and the ABS when you disconnect
    the battery?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 13, 2008
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  15. Statto

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Ok. You get first call if they're no use to me.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 13, 2008
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  16. Statto

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Ta muchly.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 13, 2008
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  17. Statto

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Nothing much - I'm pretty sure they're not self-learning. Brian
    obviously had to disconnect the battery when he was changing the starter
    motor brushes and everything worked as intended afterwards.

    Can't remember if you have to reset the ABS or not but I'm pretty sure
    you don't.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 13, 2008
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    deadmail Guest

    You don't need to do anything. Just remember to plug the ECU back in.
    *cough*.
     
    deadmail, Jan 13, 2008
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    DozynSleepy Guest

    K75S 1987 vintage battery removal.
    From recent memory (meaning there might be mistakes)

    1. Remove both side panels.

    2. Lift up seat.

    3. Remove lid of toolbox and empty contents (toolroll).

    4. On the left hand hand side of the tooltray/ECU slot, pull off the ECU
    cover, This will reveal a large connector with a bundle of wires going
    into it (looks something like a video SCART adapter).

    5. On the right hand side of the tooltray/ECU slot there is a rubber
    mount with a plastic "key" going through the centre. Pull the key out
    which will allow the ECU to be pushed out of the ECU slot.

    6. On the left hand side the ECU is connected to the wiring with a large
    plastic connector which has a metal clip on one end. If you snip any
    cable ties holding it tightly in place you can pull the ECU out without
    disconnecting. Watch the rubber mounts (2 on this side and the third is
    the one with the "key" from the other side).

    Otherwise from above, through the tooltray there is a hole into the ECU
    slot to lever the metal clip of the plastic connector. Pull the
    connector out (it's like it is hinged but once you pull the side of the
    connector with the cables the "hinge" unhooks)

    Push the ECU out of the slot.

    7. This should leave the tooltray/ECU slot free to be lifted from above.
    It sits on three rubber mounting bungs and should pull off with a bit of
    effort.

    8. Once the tooltray/ECU slot has been removed you should be able to see
    the top of the battery.


    Using a large philips screwdriver unscrew the two long screws at either
    end of the bar holding the battery in place. Lift the bar and the two
    long screws out.

    Undo the live and earth connections from the battery

    9. You should be able to tilt the battery back towards the mudguard and
    squeeze it upwards out of the frame. Tilt and then push from below as
    there is no space for fingers or anything between the battery and the frame.

    This is very fiddly and can be very tight.

    I have on one occasion loosened the mudguard to give enough tilt space
    to get the battery out.
     
    DozynSleepy, Jan 13, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    And turn the radio off.
     
    platypus, Jan 13, 2008
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