[QUOTE] You can have a lot of fun on a lightweight, they bring out the 1950s teenager in me, I would like to get a Bantam to fool around on but the money they fetch nowadays is just plain stupid.[/QUOTE] If you want that feeling get an MZ TS150 - the Bantam was a copy of the DKW (which lived on as the MZ). [URL]http://www.sweller.co.uk/sob/risen.htm[/URL] 250 Superdreams were sluggish heaps of shit - I had one and for me to consider it shitty is going some.