So, what would make a bike turn easily one way but not quite so easilythe other?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Gyp, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    I'm talking about the Bumblebus here, not the Shedaha.

    So, shaft drive, tyres in decent nick [1], no apparent accident damage,
    all seems in good order, goes neatly in a straight line and brakes good
    and true but steers more easily to the right than the left.

    Any ideas? Or is it just a characteristic of modern boxers?

    [1] Front nearing end of life
     
    Gyp, Oct 20, 2009
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    Cane Guest

    Do you have one very fat leg?
     
    Cane, Oct 20, 2009
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    Pip Guest

    It's yer left-hand-drive camber shims, innit.
     
    Pip, Oct 20, 2009
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Are we talking minuscule differences here or massive?
    That might well have something to do with it. They're rather sensitive
    to tyres and wear them out in a strange pattern.
     
    Timo Geusch, Oct 20, 2009
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  5. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    I've had no complaints.

    I have replaced the heavier than the moon exhaust system with a
    lightweight one, and that sticks out the left
     
    Gyp, Oct 20, 2009
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  6. Been in a crash and a bent frame.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 20, 2009
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  7. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Scraggy
    cf: Biggles, Camel, lightning right turns, famous fighting smile, etc,
    etc.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 20, 2009
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    wessie Guest

    change the tyre
     
    wessie, Oct 20, 2009
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    Krusty Guest

    To which side does Sir dress?
     
    Krusty, Oct 20, 2009
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    Dave Emerson Guest

    We had an FJ1200 down The Workshop a few years ago with similar strangeness.

    In the end we found that the steering head bearings had been slightly
    indented, where the previous owner had been in the habit of bumping up the
    kerb to park outside his office. The indents were offset from
    straight-ahead, causing a slightly increased force to disengage, followed by
    an overcorrection, when turning one way but not the other. These indents
    were undetectable with the front unloaded and could only be felt by putting
    a low-friction surface[1] under the wheel and turning the bars with weight
    on, making sure there's someone standing each side of the bike to stop it
    sliding over.

    Of course, in your case it could just be the flywheel effect of the boxer
    engine,.

    [1] a plastic bag with a smear of grease inside.
     
    Dave Emerson, Oct 20, 2009
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    Nige Guest

    misaligned rear wheel
     
    Nige, Oct 20, 2009
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  12. Gyp

    Dave Emerson Guest

    Difficult to do on a shaftie, unless the swingarm is bent.
    [/QUOTE]
     
    Dave Emerson, Oct 20, 2009
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    .... or the bearing that holds the final drive in the paralever has
    play, but I'd think that would show up fairly similar to a loose rear
    wheel bearing.
     
    Timo Geusch, Oct 20, 2009
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    Champ Guest

    Tyres[1], especially the front, worn unevenly due to road camber

    [1] "It's the tyres. It's always the tyres."
     
    Champ, Oct 20, 2009
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    Nige Guest

    Indeed, my mate with a K3 thou got utterly fucking ripped to bits by me
    on my K12 at Mallory last weekend & he's normally very quick. I was
    lapping him piss easy. He complained of really poor front feel, just no
    proper feeling meaning he just couldnt ride like he normally would.

    We had a proper look at it to find one side totally worn differently to
    the other. he then 'remembered' when he last had it serviced the bloke
    told him the back tyre was miles out of alignment & had been so for ages
    & to get a new front tyre :) He forgot.

    It gave me a nice feeling to lap the fucker anyway :)

    Nige
     
    Nige, Oct 20, 2009
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    wessie Guest

    yes - I've had the paralever bearing tweaked[1] a couple of times on the R-
    GS. Mike, my mechanic, reckons it will be a replacment job next time it
    goes a bit wobbly.

    [1] about every 18k, there's an allen bolt adjuster arrangement on the
    inboard side of the swing arm.
     
    wessie, Oct 20, 2009
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    malc Guest

    Tea/keyboard interface moment.

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    Rusted and ropy.
    Dog-eared old copy.
    Vintage and classic,
    or just plain Jurassic:
    all words to describe me.
     
    malc, Oct 20, 2009
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  18. You sitting slightly to one side of the bike.
     
    doetnietcomputeren, Oct 20, 2009
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    Gyp Guest

    I only tend to notice it when I'm on longer trips so not pressing on too
    much, so I'd say relatively miniscule, however when I notice it it
    becomes far from miniscule IYSWIM. Thranshing about I tend not to
    notice, but on the motorway it sticks out like a sore thumb.
    I suspect replacing the worn front Avaro with a new 020 to match the
    rear won't do any harm.

    It's currently parked in my underground lair in London. If you fancy
    swinging past on the way home tomorrow to give it the once over...
     
    Gyp, Oct 20, 2009
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    Beav Guest

    I wouldn't bank on that theory being correct.


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    Beav, Oct 20, 2009
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