smtp

I need to send email, using my dsl connection, without giving
away my originating IP. Anyone know[1] how to do it?

*cue ykw from ykw*

[1] And if so, explaining to me.

Cheers, etc.

 

Define "need"

 

On reflection, "need" is not quite true, 'would like' is probably
better... Bottom line is that my Zen ADSL is registered on a RIPE
lookup (eg: A&A screamers http://tinyurl.com/25rwe)

There are times when I want to send email in the knowledge that I
have some privacy, in more or less the same way I can post here.
I usually achieve this via a quick free dialup account like
Freeserve, but sometimes attachments are included, which is a
pain at 56k. So I want to send without exposing my local IP.

 

Not easy, unless you can get an account on a remote machine.

In fact, I;d say virtually impossible

There, that should get you an answer, just cos I'm (nearly) always
wrong

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Yes, so you need to use a mail server that doesn't append that header. They
aren't too difficult to find.

 

Or open an account with the trolls' friend, cotse.

 

Using Linux and Postfix? There's something in smtpd.c or smtp.c in the
source code, that can be altered, IIRC. But you obviously need to make
the changes before you compile.

 

Of course the box he sends to, whether it's the end-recipient's mail server
or an intermediate relay, will clearly display his IP in the headers in the
Received: header.

 

www.hushmail.com

 

Hmm.. 1.) Define "trivial" and 2.) look again.

In other words, yes, but I must say I didn't think it was a trivial
thing to do. I also didn't think that many people would know about it,
or understand how to do it. I may be wrong.

 

I think that often, ukrm makes one "feel" wrong when one possibly
isn't. However, in this instance you are.

 

Ahh.. I tried something similar with hotmail or Yahoo webmail
via: http://www.freepublicproxies.com/page1.html and
http://www.guardster.com For some reason they won't "send" the
email when I login via anonymous proxy.

BTW, would proxies found at the above freepublicproxies.com be
subject to said violation? If so, I'll just use the free
guardster.com.

It's in the rules apparently. I have 8 fixed IP's which means
they must register certain details with RIPE. The extent of those
details is (or was) under dispute based on mixed understanding
and interpretation of said rules.

 

*ding*

 

Providing your SMTP server doesn't fwd my IP, yes.

And I'd be really keen to use the reliably confidential services
of a fellow UKRMer, obv.

Clarification: It's not that I want to send non-traceable emails,
I don't mind a path back to my ISP and my ISP knowing it's me
that sent them. That is reasonable and legal, etc. I just don't
want my real name and possibly my address and phone number
plastered all over them.

Ironically, I think you are the only person known to me through
usenet, who knows my *real* home address. I'd rather increase
that figure voluntarily.

You've got one too many sig-sep's.

 

From the FAQ at: www.openproxies.com

"Is it legal to surf the web through these proxies?

As far as we can tell, the answer is yes. The primary argument
against open proxies is that their owners may not have intended
for them to be used by the public. However, intent is a difficult
thing to judge, especially when you're talking to a computer. By
running a service on a machine accessible to the public, without
restricting access to that service, a proxy's administrator is
not explicitly denying that service to the public. In a sense, a
proxy server is just like a web server, an FTP server, or any
other net service: if it's running and accepting connections,
it's fair game. The internet is a public network, and if you're
running a server you can hardly be surprised when someone uses
it.

With regard to US law in particular, 18 USC 1030 (which covers
computer-related fraud and theft) applies only when the user has
knowingly accessed a computer without authorization or has
knowingly exceeded his authorized access on that computer.
Because an open HTTP proxy allows connections and use of the
service by anyone in the world, it would seem that the public at
large has been "authorized" to use the service. There's no
intentional bypassing of security taking place. Just as you don't
need Google's express written permission to connect to
google.com, you don't need a proxy admin's express written
permission to use his open proxy server. "

Clear as mud eh?

 

Good thinking batman. Didn't occur to me.

 

Ok, but can someone get my "IP" from my X-Trace header?

And another thing I've always wondered, is it possible (by any
means outside of Clara) to determine a poster's machine name?

Cheers.

 

Obv innit. Spam and just about any other illegal or even nuisance
activities.

I've just posted something on this under a new heading.

Just checked A&A's website www.aaisp.net.uk/aa/adsl/faq.html

"Why do you publish contact details?

There are two places we normally publish contact details - your
IP address and your domain registration.

For your IP address we publish a contact so that anyone affected
by your computers (perhaps because you have a virus, etc) can
contact you and ask you to sort it out. Contact details have
always been published for IP address assignments, but many ISPs
simply publish the ISP address. We believe that being part of the
internet requires taking responsibility for your use of the
internet, and so we register every assignment we make in the RIPE
database. However, you can change the details we publish in RIPE
at any time, on line, but please ensure they are valid contact
details of some sort."

Looks like they've moved the goalposts since this discussion...
http://tinyurl.com/25rwe

Thanks for the help btw.

 

Eh?

Any netblock greater than a /30 has to be registered, and any netblock
greater than the LIR's Assignment Window has to be approved by the
hostmasters before registration.

 

Except webmail *sendmail* doesn't work via anon proxy as
discussed here up there ^^ Somewhere.