SMIDSY: ER-5 vs Honda Civic

dwb emerged from their own little world to say

<round of applause>

You took your time to come to the only logical conclusion. I think you need
some lessons from Jackie.

WTF does "genuinally" mean?

 

It's a crap way of spelling "genuinely". Tbh it's consistent with the
general level of my spelling through the whole thread - must try harder.

 

and bog standard road tyres.

it's not an "adventure" bike, it's a styling excercise like the french
motard stuff.

no, perhaps not, and the complexity of the earlier desmo ducatis was
overkill too TBH.

flickability.

never uder-estimate a guy (or gal) on a small sorted bike, they may
well show you a very clean pair of heels.

hang on, up there you said it was an "adventure" bike....

as fast as a far smaller bike, your words.

but, it is a road going motorcycle, so once you have thrown away all
the marketing bullshit you are left with four sorts of road going
motorcycles.

1/ city commuters - emphasis on very high mpg
2/ middleweight all rounders - jack of all trades
3/ heavyweight all rounders - emphasis on top mph and low 1/4 mile
4/ heavyweight tourers - emphasis on comfort

your "trailie" or "enduro" or "adventure" styling has as much to do
with real world design as 4 wheel drive does on a chelsea tractor on a
school run.

pure marketing bullshit.

your vstrom, my tr1 and so on are middleweight all rounders.

super blackbird and gixxer 13 are heavyweight all rounders

wings and shit are tourers

nowadays I ride purely for pleasure, but I spent some years on and off
over the years doing dispatching, usually long distance dispatching,
that should answer your question, if it doesn't, ask a dispatcher

no, but then they aren't 20+ years old, and I doubt many of them will
last that long.

I understand not many people will care about that though.

why?

what do you think a "modern" motorcycle offers you that an older
motorcycle cannot?

serious question.

on a real road my experiences are that fast a roads and motorways you
get the odd speed freak on a heavyweight blitzing past me at eek mph

9+ times out of 10 a few miles further on you catch up to them and
often overtake, because they are pumping gas in, or can't filter, or
whatever.

it is amazing how fast for how long you have to go to catch up to
someone "pottering" along at the road speed limit even after a very
quick stop



- it would piss past you on any higher speed overtakes

so you could overtake the car in front in 4 seconds where it would take
me 6
then you reduce speed again, having consumed extra gas and rear tyre
for effectively nothing.

personally I don't like the r600 type bikes, I find them too "unstable"
in the fighter aircraft sense of the word.

I'd rather have a bigger diameter front wheel and plan my maneouvers
more

it's worse, much worse, than a 20 year old yammy v twin of similar
capacity with very minor mods.

it doesn't matter if it is rubbish per se, in the intervening 20 years
with the huge advances in tyre technology etc it should knock bloody
spots off the older bike.

take another 25 year gap, 1960 BSA a10 parallel twin 650, 1985 ish yam
xs650

the yam had issues, and there were lovely things about the old a10, but
out on the roads the yam would wipe the floor with the beezer any day
of the week.

why hasn't that happened.

tried a 1980 duke desmo, say a darmah?
tried a five year old gran canyon?

well I hope both you and I are both intact and still riding in another
20 years time then, be interesting to see how your attitude has
changed.

No, I don't think you're talking out of your arse, I think you believe
what you say, it's just that you seem to have a closed mind when it
comes to someone coming along and asking you to explain why some of the
things that you believe to be self evident facts are so, and why you
aren't willing to even entertain the idea of testing your beliefs.

take an example

honda cx500, the definitive shit old bike, cried of "a thousand
dispatchers can't be wrong", laugh at them all you will, scorn the puny
specifications, the n try and keep one in sight on your vstrom.

coming away from such an experience with "dispatchers are fucking
nutters with a death wish" means you miss the point.

yes, some dispatchers are frightening, but, all dispatchers use a tool
to do a job, and it just so happens that their chosen tool may do a lot
of the jobs that your bikes marketing bullshit claims your bike is ace
at, a lot better than your bike, and unless you grep that then your
bike buying future, both new and second hand, isn't going to be as nice
as it could be.

back in the day I thought dukes were crap and only posers bought them,
harris magnums were men's bikes, then one day I rode one, made a
fucking stupid stupid stupid mistake and ended up taking a country lane
at 80+ instead of the a road, I'd be dead if I'd been on the harris,
the inherent stability and handling of the duke kept it upright (bend
of a country road, shit from spreader, wet leaves as its autumn, wet
surface, loose shit in the crown of the road, granite hedges either
side...) long enough for my brain and body to catch up and bring it
down.... I never again criticised dukes for excessive trail or
reluctance to corner

 

In uk.rec.motorcycles, prawn amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:

It's 90ish%. It all depends on the weather and how far we've got to go
to meet. I'll be the **** with the furthest to travel, see.

 

I never said otherwise.

 

No no no - you're supposed to get all precious at this point and attempt
some sort of flounce.

 

I considered this and many other options today and have come to the
conclusion that I will not be making an insurance claim against the
driver.

I know it sounds off, but insurance claims originating from peeps
inside the insurance business are carefully examined. I have no wish
to make a fraudulent claim for my speedo/etc even though I could
probably get away with it. Probably is the active word there.

If I was found guilty of insurance fraud then I would have all of my
insurance qualifications revoked (I need these for my job) and I would
also be suspended from the ABTA register and my ATOL would probably
die with it. Oh and add to that the insurance companies shitting all
over me. I know this is unlikely to happen but I've got so very, very
much going on at the moment and life has become pretty stressful in
general and I don't need to worry about this too.

At any other time it would have been no issue and I'd have done it,
but my life isn't stable at the moment.

 

I really don't know what he wants me to say. He presented me with a
statement, not a question, not a piece of advice. I replied, he
presented me with another statement.

 

<snip civic driver getting away with it>

Oh and add to that the insurance companies shitting all

when is your life not in crisis?

 

FOAD.

 

What I meant to say was: Stop being so fucking dramatic. But I've got
a headache, time of the month and a shit load of bollocks to sort out,
so FOAD seemed more appropriate.

 

On 5 Oct 2005 09:06:32 -0700, "Guy Fawkes" <>
wrote:

FOAD.

 

I've got a reference from Mr. Police and have spoken to Mr. Insurance
company. I will leave it at that awaiting Mr. Civic to get shitty.

 

and you accuse me of being dramatic.....

watch that bad karma doesn;t come back and bite you.

 

And he's a handsome thing. Probably married.

 

I thought last year was a bad year, but this year has been just
horrible. I just want to go away and have a good selfish cry for a
few hours so I can feel truly sorry for myself.

 

I've wasted five minutes of my life reading posts by you. Five
minutes that I will never be able to reclaim.

 

which could have been resolved ages ago by one 'yeah whatever' and a
shrug of the shoulders

 

Guy Fawkes says...

Utter bollocks. I drive round London and call in on courier companies
almost every day of the week. In 17 months I've not seen one despatcher
carrying anything resembling an offensive weapon, least of all a piece
of soil pipe attached to their bike to keep anything in.

 

BGN says...

Nick, meet Simian. Simian, meet Nick.