Slow Riding

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by David Thomas, Jan 15, 2004.

  1. David Thomas

    David Thomas Guest

    Oh wise ones, why is it that I can ride slower and straighter when using a
    balance of the throttle, clutch & rear brake than using just the throttle &
    clutch?

    Why do I have that much more "balance?" when bringing the rear brake in to
    play.

    If this is a stupid question then I am asking for a friend !

    D
     
    David Thomas, Jan 15, 2004
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  2. David Thomas

    Sorby Guest

    The best reason I can give is that applying some rear brake stops the bike
    'running away with itself' IYSWIM.
    Heh.
     
    Sorby, Jan 15, 2004
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  3. David Thomas wrote
    FFS. Riding slow is dangerous, don't fucking do it.

    What is the percentage of bike accidents that happen at less than the
    speed of sound?

    100fucking% that is how many. Kin figures speak for themselves,
     
    steve auvache, Jan 15, 2004
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  4. David Thomas

    OH- Guest

    It is a stupid question, that is, it's hard to give an answer.

    By slipping the clutch and holding the bike back using the rear brake
    it's easier to keep the engine at a slightly higher rev (if you have an
    engine that is a bit rough at idle).
    It also helps keep the drive train loaded in the "forward" direction the
    whole time, avoiding the delay and jerkiness that you feel each time
    the slack is taken up.
     
    OH-, Jan 15, 2004
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  5. David Thomas

    tallbloke Guest

    'Cos the drag puts positive force into the swingarm and counteracts the
    wobbly nature of piss chaep jappo setups which are designed to be
    accelerating or braking but not riding at a constant speed.

    Ask the audience instead.
     
    tallbloke, Jan 15, 2004
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  6. David Thomas

    wessie Guest

    That pretty much describes the GS. The huge cylinders give very lumpy
    power delivery at low revs. On really tight corners e.g. Alpine hairpins
    I find the combination of keeping the revs constant and controlling the
    speed of the bike by using the clutch & rear brake works best.
    My TDM was much the same.
     
    wessie, Jan 15, 2004
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  7. David Thomas

    mups Guest

    OK I'll bite, what's piss cheap about a "jappo" setup.
     
    mups, Jan 16, 2004
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  8. David Thomas

    Colin Irvine Guest

    Er ... 'cos rear brake means higher revs menas more gyroscopic effect
    of flywheel?
     
    Colin Irvine, Jan 16, 2004
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  9. David Thomas

    tallbloke Guest

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. WHUUUUP. Heh, damn, only a tiddler.

    What's in your swingarm bearing wise?
     
    tallbloke, Jan 16, 2004
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  10. Nice taper rollers, thank you very much.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 16, 2004
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  11. David Thomas

    tallbloke Guest


    WHOOOOOOAH, the big boys have arrived ;-)


    How does the adjustment work? Does that big fat tyre have any uneven wear?
     
    tallbloke, Jan 16, 2004
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  12. David Thomas

    Lozzo Guest

    Grimly Curmudgeon said...
    I ought to replace the ones in the SOCB, they are a bit notchy.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 16, 2004
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  13. David Thomas

    tallbloke Guest

    Must be the coriolis effect.
     
    tallbloke, Jan 16, 2004
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  14. David Thomas

    tallbloke Guest

    Thats the least of your worries. What are the spokes like?
     
    tallbloke, Jan 16, 2004
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  15. David Thomas

    Lozzo Guest

    tallbloke said...
    Fine, I checked the insides of each wheel for corrosion when I fitted
    new tyres, and the spokes themselves are good. At some point in the
    future I'm rebuilding a spare set of wheels with new stainless spokes.
    These wheels will be used on the reincarnation of the SOCB that I have
    in mind for its 200,000 mile birthday :)

    I have 3 sets of good condition alloy DID rims here to work with, but
    only 5 out of the 6 hubs are any good. One has a knackered cush drive
    lug.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 16, 2004
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  16. David Thomas

    tallbloke Guest

    I used a DR 400 hub for the Rickman for a coupla years. It went oval twice.

    The RD400 replacement was much better.

    200k? Pretty fucking good for an engine with top end issues that.
     
    tallbloke, Jan 16, 2004
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  17. David Thomas

    deadmail Guest

    200,000? I thought it was 165,000?
     
    deadmail, Jan 16, 2004
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  18. David Thomas

    Lozzo Guest

    tallbloke said...
    All RD400s came with discs front and rear, even the wire spoke wheel
    models. It's most likely to have been an RD250A/B/C part
    The original engine went bang at 168,000 whist doing an indicated 85mph
    on the M25. It is temporarily sporting an engine of unknown mileage[1]
    while I set to rebuilding the other one. Surprisingly, the cam/cylinder
    head/valves of the original engine are in excellent condition. I seized
    the bore/piston and little end, so it needs rebore number 2 and a crank
    rebuild.

    [1] For 30 quid I bought 2 almost complete bikes with some very good
    parts, including a complete engine in superb condition and a nearly new
    fuel tank. I was cheeky, I knocked him down from 50 quid :)
     
    Lozzo, Jan 16, 2004
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  19. David Thomas

    Lozzo Guest

    said...
    It's sitting at close to 175,000 at the moment. I'm totally rebulding it
    when it hits 200,000.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 16, 2004
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  20. David Thomas

    tallbloke Guest

    Now that *is* bargain biking ;-)
     
    tallbloke, Jan 16, 2004
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