Sixty pounds Sir - and here's your three points

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip, Jun 2, 2009.

  1. Pip

    Pip Guest

    Not me this time, but a mate of mine I saw in the pub last night. He
    was somewhere West of the M25 on a small 'A' road when he came round a
    corner and had to brake /hard/ to avoid tail-ending a queue of traffic.
    He backed up smartly and applied hazard lights to obviate being taken
    roughly himself, then once a queue had formed behind him, rolled up to
    the end of the line in front. Jolly sensible - well, he is an ex-senior
    copper and was sober for once ...

    Anyway, the jam was caused by a large truck of the builders' merchant
    persuasion which had been attempting to reverse onto a building site and
    had coughed its lot when broadside on, so nobody was going anywhere for
    a while. So, Mr Responsible places a call to the office to tell them
    he's been delayed and that he'll advise an ETA when he can guess at one.

    No sooner has he finished the call when there's a tap at the window. A
    Hofficer of the Law, no less: "Using a telephonic device when driving,
    Sir? You're nicked, you are".

    Apparently it doesn't matter if you've been stationary with the engine
    off for ten minutes. Apparently it doesn't matter if you're effectively
    parked, and will be for the forseeable. Apparently, if you're sitting
    in the driver's seat with the keys in the ignition and the phone in your
    hand - you're nicked.

    Reminiscent of the old 'Drunk In Charge' it seems. Deeply unpleasant.
     
    Pip, Jun 2, 2009
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    Nige Guest

    Jesus, that is bloody harsh.

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    Nige,

    BMW K1200S
    Range Rover Vogue
    Suzuki GSX-R600 Racebike
     
    Nige, Jun 2, 2009
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  3. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
    Quite so. Personally I would fight that one. Hard.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

    I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
    change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
    go and talk to the Catholics.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 2, 2009
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    Simes Guest

    Old Bobby Peel said:

    The nine principles,

    1. The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime
    and disorder.

    2. The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon
    public approval of police actions.

    3. Police must secure the willing co-operation of the public in
    voluntary observance of the law to be able to secure and maintain the
    respect of the public.

    4. The degree of co-operation of the public that can be secured
    diminishes proportionately to the necessity of the use of physical force.

    5. Police seek and preserve public favour not by catering to public
    opinion but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to the
    law.

    6. Police use physical force to the extent necessary to secure
    observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of
    persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient.

    7. Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the
    public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are
    the public and the public are the police; the police being only members
    of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which
    are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and
    existence

    8. Police should always direct their action strictly towards their
    functions and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary.

    9. The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder,
    not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it.

    Basically - the old bill have failed totally - in every possible way -
    but still we don't rise as one and overthrow our tyrannical masters.

    Why not?
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
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    Adrian Guest

    Tut, tut. What happened to being able to stop in the distance you can see
    to be clear...?
    I thought the dividing line was "Is the engine's running?"

    'course, since he pleaded guilty by taking the fixed penalty, there's no
    way of knowing.
     
    Adrian, Jun 2, 2009
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    Buzby Guest

    Apparently he did.
     
    Buzby, Jun 2, 2009
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    Eiron Guest

    Nothing happened to it. A miss is as good as a mile.
     
    Eiron, Jun 2, 2009
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    M J Carley Guest

    The police have the big sticks.
     
    M J Carley, Jun 2, 2009
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    Simes Guest

    **** off Froggie. I was talking to the real Brits, not you commers-in.
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
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    Simes Guest

    Are we scared? No brothers! We shall overthrow to evil overlords.

    Perhaps next week eh? I've got the dentists tomorrow and Thursday is
    always busy at work.
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
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    Simes Guest

    Fair play - it does sound like you come from a long line of no-hopers
    like the rest of us. Welcome brother.
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
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    Krusty Guest

    Amazing. So if you have a shunt, & can't get out your car because your
    foot's trapped, you just have to sit there until someone finds you or
    you die, cos dialling 999 is illegal.

    I'd be all over my MP & the press with that one, that's for sure.

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    Krusty

    '03 Tiger 955i
    '02 MV Senna (for sale) '96 Tiger (for sale)
    '79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
     
    Krusty, Jun 2, 2009
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  13. Might not be such a good idea in these PC times .
     
    steve robinson, Jun 2, 2009
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  14. The dividing line is keys in the ignition , out your car can not be driven , in it
    can
     
    steve robinson, Jun 2, 2009
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  15. You are exused if its an emergency .


    Ironic thing is you can use other communications devices
     
    steve robinson, Jun 2, 2009
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    Tosspot Guest

    Been a long time now since I was in anyway helpful to a copper unless I
    was in a really good mood. I wouldn't go so far as to say they are all
    scum, but it's like Americans, this basic assumption will see you
    through 9 times out of 10.
     
    Tosspot, Jun 2, 2009
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    Hog Guest

    TBF it was proved in NI that Plod and his families can be made to worry
    a lot.
     
    Hog, Jun 2, 2009
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    Tosspot Guest

    <dusts off old AK-47> Back in a tick, off for a bit off plod shooting :)
     
    Tosspot, Jun 2, 2009
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    Eiron Guest

    Do you have a reference for that?
     
    Eiron, Jun 2, 2009
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    ginge Guest

    That's not what the home office webpage says about it..

    http://www.crimereduction.homeoffice.gov.uk/vehiclecrime/vehiclecrime38.htm

    see the exception 5th line down..

    The ban also applies to driving while stopped at traffic lights or in
    a traffic jam. While the car is under the control of a driver, then
    that driver cannot use a mobile phone. An exception is made in lengthy
    tailbacks when the engine is turned off.
     
    ginge, Jun 2, 2009
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