Single vs Twin NEWBIE milage question

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Richard, May 17, 2005.

  1. Richard

    Richard Guest

    I am planning to get a motorcycle soon. I am about 5'11", 235#. I have no
    riding experience, so I am thinking about getting something around a 600
    which I hope will not be too small, yet big enough that I won't grow out of
    it in less than a year. (Any suggestions on this are welcome).

    The Suzuki 600 has a single engine, the Honda 600 has a twin. If both bikes
    have the same miles on them, has the single engine worked twice as hard? Is
    this something that should be considered, or is it purely academic?
     
    Richard, May 17, 2005
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  2. No.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 17, 2005
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  3. The decision which motorbike to buy should be more practical than
    academic. If you're really really interested in the subject, you can
    study things like bore to stroke ratio and piston speed later...

    If one of the motorbikes was owned by an adult who cared for it with a
    passion bordering on mania and drove it reasonably, and the other
    motorbike was owned by a nutcase who left it sit out in the rain, rode
    it without ever bothering to check the oil, tire pressure, lube the
    chain or clean the air filter, and rode it like a madman, the one owned
    by the adult is the one I'd choose...

    So far as the design of singles versus twins is concerned, the single
    will typical have a longer stroke and operate at lower maximum RPM than
    the twin, which will have a lower piston speed at a higher RPM than the
    single...

    It was once thought that 4500 RPM was the maximum survivable piston
    speed for an engine, but some racing Ducatis are now exceeding 5000
    feet per minute piston speed. The engines only last about 30 hours...

    By comparison, my old GSXR 750 only reaches a piston speed of about
    3500 feet per minute, because it has a very short stroke...
     
    krusty kritter, May 17, 2005
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  4. Richard

    Paul Cassel Guest

    You know nothing of engines.
     
    Paul Cassel, May 17, 2005
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  5. Innit just? We haven't had one of these for ages.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 18, 2005
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  6. Well, if that's the case, please explain why the single engine has
    worked tweice as hard to produce the same mileage?

    <Taps foot impatiently>
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 18, 2005
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  7. Richard

    Richard Guest

    I will keep this in mind. I plan to take my written test for the permit this
    week, then take the rider training sometime in the next couple of weeks.
    They provide the bikes there, so I will be able to get an idea of what fits
    me. Then I'll go shopping. In the mean time I am looking at ads, dealer's
    online inventory, and ebay to see what the different bikes go for, etc.
    All of this is interesting, but far beyond me. As I said, I've no riding
    experience. But I'll learn.

    Thanks a lot for the response!

    Richard
     
    Richard, May 18, 2005
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  8. Richard

    OH- Guest

    The decision between single and twin should not be
    primarily a question of mechanical endurance. As others
    have pointed out, that is more determined by the level
    of maintenance (if the bike model you consider is not a
    known failure). Most bikes are not worn out but are
    taken out of service for other reasons like lack of
    spares or crashing. The Yamaha XT600 I sold last
    autumn had 97 000 km on the clock and is still
    sounding and working really well (I spoke to the new
    owner tonight).

    By all means, try a single. Many riders (like me) love them
    but no matter how high tech they get you pay a price -
    vibration. The advantages I experience are mostly
    subjective except for the compact engine and relative
    ease of maintenance.
     
    OH-, May 18, 2005
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