single line plates

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by R45six, May 31, 2004.

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    R45six Guest

    R45six, May 31, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    So, you come up with something that has been asked and answered
    previously, quoting the same url as in the original post, to which you
    refer in your query.

    What is it you want?

    You need to bear in mind that regulations governing number plates have
    been changed a few times recently.
     
    Pip, May 31, 2004
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    Andy Carvell Guest

    The "Stones Justice Manual" states that as long as the characters are the
    correct size and spacing then the plate is fine.

    It seems that the DVLA don't agree with this though, so who knows.
     
    Andy Carvell, May 31, 2004
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  4. So what if you transfer an old cherished number such as B6 to a bike?

    Do you have to have that on 2 lines?

    As usual the orforitys have not thought it through completely.

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    Colonel Tupperware, May 31, 2004
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  5. R45six

    sweller Guest

    In the past I've quoted Butterworths Police Law in court to be gently
    informed it was only a guide and not the definitive law. Fortunately the
    relevant C&U agreed with my point [1].
    Are single line plates specifically proscribed in the act that gave us
    reflective plates? (1968 - 1973 ish)


    [1] Producing, whilst in the dock, a photocopy of the relevant act
    resulted in me being, not so gently, informed that copying crown
    documents was a breach of copyright. You'll never take me alive fuckers!
     
    sweller, May 31, 2004
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  6. R45six

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    you are transferring the numbers not the plate
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    ß Ø ® G, May 31, 2004
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  7. R45six

    sweller Guest

    This was 1985, its probably changed.

    It's not something I have a huge problem with. It's a useful identifier.
    The copyright, patent, whatever doesn't belong to a 'private' individual
    or corporate body but to the state and represents the efforts of the
    collective.

    Without using the word 'collective' which some people find scary....
     
    sweller, May 31, 2004
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  8. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    That's fucking rich. Considering we all paid for the fuckers who drew
    them up and printed them, I'd think that any member of the public has a
    right to copy them as many times as he/she feels like.

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    Grimly Curmudgeon, May 31, 2004
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  9. R45six

    R45six Guest

    What is it you want?

    Andy Carvell's answer.
     
    R45six, May 31, 2004
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  10. In ß Ø ® G triped:
    Yes, but if you read the actual cite it includes the following words:
    "Motorcycles registered on or after 1 September 2001 must display a two-line
    number plate number plate. Motorcycles registered prior to the 1 September
    2001 may display a three-line plate, but one-line plates are illegal,
    irrespective of the date of registration of the motorcycle. "

    Therefore interpreting this literally, i.e. wholly in line with the current
    socio-political way of thinking, would mean that the B and 6 as suggested by
    the good Colonel would not be allowed to be on a single line.
     
    Andy Ashworth, May 31, 2004
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  11. R45six

    R45six Guest

    ...
    I think they count as a single "group".

    On the DVLA site, in the table that lists the character size and spacings,
    it says "Space between vertical lines" which makes no sense at all.

    On a two line plate, you have horizontal lines of characters !?!
     
    R45six, May 31, 2004
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  12. R45six

    R45six Guest

    That's the line that prompted my original post.
    I don't remember seeing that on there before.
     
    R45six, May 31, 2004
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    Kinesin Guest

    You're allowed to copy them anyway! As long as you don't cover the whole
    thing, just the sections required. It's how your allowed to quote from
    books etc for study without having to ask for permission from the
    copyright holder. [1]

    [1] it's fair use.. even if we don't legally have a fair use law.
    However the copyright act mentions such thing iirc.
     
    Kinesin, May 31, 2004
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  14. R45six

    ß Ø ® G Guest


    could be that if you transfer the old number to a brand new bike then
    you have to follow the law 'On or after 1 sept' It's related to the
    age of the bike not the number plate then
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    ß Ø ® G Guest

    But then I used to have a number plate on my trike that was made to
    look like the bottom of it was melting and dripping and used blue
    number and letters, This went through a MOT several times, and the
    tester was a honest tester that stuck to the laws.
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    The font face didn't used to be specified,
    just the width and height of the characters,
    and the spacing / layout.

    The thing the police seem hottest on is the grouping.
    eg. L1SA T rather than L1 SAT
     
    R45six, May 31, 2004
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    sweller Guest

    Number plates are not testable items on motorcycle MOTs. I assume this
    covers Trikes.
     
    sweller, Jun 1, 2004
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    Ahhh, ok
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    ß Ø ® G, Jun 1, 2004
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  19. how things change. it's all to do with the character recognition software
    behind the cameras.
     
    eric the brave, Jun 1, 2004
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  20. In ß Ø ® G triped:
    This part of the text "but one-line plates are illegal, irrespective of the
    date of registration of the motorcycle." seems pretty clear to me - the DVA
    do not accept single line plates as legal.
     
    Andy Ashworth, Jun 2, 2004
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