Silly in the snow

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG@Toil, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. He is frighteningly intelligent. Not that Cameron is a thicko, but Boris
    is clever as well as intelligent IYSWIM.

    He's better on TV and the media, IMHO. He just comes over better.

    He has a knack of appealing to the Common Folk (copyright The Lion King)
    which Cameron doesn't seem to have mastered.

    He comes up with better sound bites.

    He's *instantly* identifiable, by sound or vision. Like he's a brand.
    Try it: Think Boris. OK, you've got him. Now Think Cameron. Erm, which
    side is his hair parted?

    I think all this matters in modern TV-led elections.

    I don't see him being silly enough to lead a coup. But I can easily
    imagine some Tory grandees saying privately that perhaps Cameron isn't
    up to the job after all, chaps, now who do we think could replace him?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 24, 2010
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  2. As long as it isn't Fatty Soames: the Richter-force landing would
    flatten half of London.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 24, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    That's partly because Boris' hair is parted on every side possible,
    and a few extra sides.
     
    ginge, Jan 24, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    wessie, Jan 24, 2010
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    Fr Jack Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) spewed forth:

    Mightn't be such a bad thing...
     
    Fr Jack, Jan 24, 2010
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    petrolcan Guest

    I actually feel some sympathy for him but at the end of the day he
    *wanted* the job.

    Blair's timing to jump ship was spot on.
     
    petrolcan, Jan 25, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    I think Brown's biggest problem is one he has no control over at all,
    and that's that he's being compared to Obama, and therefore is just
    seen as less 'cool', because he's not out there being a political
    rockstar, IYSWIM.

    He just strikes me as a regular bloke, doing a very tough job, which
    in itself is perfectly ok.
     
    ginge, Jan 25, 2010
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    M J Carley Guest

    A one time girlfriend of his described sex with him as being like
    having the wardrobe fall on you with the key sticking out.
     
    M J Carley, Jan 25, 2010
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Well as far as I'm concerned, his pushing of a too deregulated financial
    system, but then that damage was done as chancellor.

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    Pete Fisher, Jan 25, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    I'll reverse the question.

    What has Brown done that makes him anything at all, bad or otherwise.
     
    ogden, Jan 25, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    What, worse than the basic "you must have a tiny nob" ?
     
    ogden, Jan 25, 2010
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    M J Carley Guest

    No. The worst, most crushing, putdown any woman can inflict on any man
    is: `<insert name here>, you're really nice ...'.
     
    M J Carley, Jan 25, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    "I love you like a friend"

    "You're like a brother to me"

    etc
     
    ogden, Jan 25, 2010
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    CT Guest

    or "sweet".
     
    CT, Jan 25, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    I am in agreement.
    But at least we know what Labour and the Libs do. I think this Tory lot
    could go off like a faulty firework.
     
    'Hog, Jan 25, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    Well I'm one of the 25% who think that we should go off and **** up nasty
    little Totalitarian govmints where possible and completely isolate them when
    not.
    Bollocks.

    Wilson. Heath. Thatcher. Major.
    Literally insolvent. We printed more money to stay afloat.
    Loathed by Chaves and the Muslim world you mean? The Sandniggers had their
    chance, they blew it and I'd be happy to see the Yids create a new (nuclear)
    holocaust in their back yard.
     
    'Hog, Jan 25, 2010
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    'Hog Guest

    You forgot Wilson.

    I listened to an alternative view of Chamberlain on R4 recently which was
    exceptionally lucid and hit the mark.

    He believed that Britian was so unprepared for another war in Europe that it
    would be a disaster. One would agree. So no matter what the cost he had to
    buy another 4-6 years to prepare. Which is exactly what he did. He dressed
    it up as whatever it had to be to get it through.

    He also believed it would be so horrific (read mechanised) that he didn't
    want to be involved. He pretty much achieved that too and I don't blame him.

    If you judge his career on domestic policies as a reformer, which is what he
    hope for, he doesn't deserve the vitriol he gets.
     
    'Hog, Jan 25, 2010
  18. Mishandled the economy- insufficient supervision of banking industry.

    Mishandled the country's investors (risk of losing ratings)

    Refused to make tough decisions on spending (cut back on the stuff that
    makes Britain believe it's truely a world power).

    Sold gold reserves.

    Poor performance on the expenses issue and general 'low-level
    corruption' in the labour party (remember how they were going to be
    whiter than white just 13 years ago? My some of them learnt well from
    the Tories).

    Inability to lead his government- there's been more back-stabbing by his
    cabinet than Major suffered and without the clear schism in the party
    that Major had over europe.

    The whole 'shall I, shan't I' around when he calls the election.

    Carrying a discredited government through at a time when the country
    clearly wants a fresh start and at a time when we need to be pulling
    together to try to increase the optimism to avoid a prolonged slump.





    To be honest a lot of what he's done wasn't done by him alone (or even
    under his tenure as PM). He's just been the unfortunate at the helm
    when everything went shit-shaped. He was handed a pretty good economy
    when he took over as chancellor, at least by today's terms.

    Never liked him; his dour personality always worried me, I had expected
    legislation against pleasure.

    I think he'll be a post-note to Blair in the same way that Major was to
    Thatcher with one essential difference- Major won an election.
     
    stephen.packer, Jan 25, 2010
  19. How much money are you willing to put on Boris as PM within two years of
    the 2010 general election?
     
    stephen.packer, Jan 25, 2010
  20. "And I don't come from a rural community"
     
    stephen.packer, Jan 25, 2010
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