[QUOTE] Saved me a fair bit of typing. Crudely the problem boils down to public finances. Road infrastructure expenditure is accounted as investment whereas railway is counted as subsidy. Until that playing field is levelled the madness will continue.[/QUOTE] It's worth noting, though, that at least one of the countries mentioned, where I'm currently sitting, also invests massively in the road network. And they do so to address future requirements, not just the current state of play. The motorway running mainly underground around and under Basel took some 6 years to complete, but was done so at a time that the disruption could be coped with by the existing system, and was complete before the current network became terminally overloaded. (Oh, and the whole project came in on tume and budget, AFAICT). What they seem to do so well is recognise that transport policies need to be integrated and planned as one, and without giving way to trendy pressure groups try to plan what the best solution is, then go ahead and implement it. Just one of the things I like about the Swiss.