Shifts gear when resting foot on shifter? HELP

Discussion in 'Motorbike Technical Discussion' started by Grendel, Sep 1, 2003.

  1. Grendel

    truckracer Guest

    There is nothing wrong with your bike or there wasn't until you rode the
    shift drum.

    Bottom line : Keep your foot away from applying pressure until you are ready
    to shift.
     
    truckracer, Sep 2, 2003
    #21
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  2. Killfile me while you're at it, idiot.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 2, 2003
    #22
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  3. Grendel was also a character in Beowulf, if I'm not mistaken.

    On the topic... keep your foot off the shift lever, unless you're in the
    process of shifting. Simple solution. The bike wanting to shift when you
    have your foot on the lever isn't a flaw in the machinery, it's a flaw in
    the way you're operating the machinery. It doesn't matter that you used to
    do this all the time with other bikes. Maybe those other bikes had loose,
    sloppy transmissions that allowed you to get away with such laziness. Don't
    know for sure, but it doesn't really matter. Just retrain yourself to keep
    your foot on the peg, then move it to shift, and when you've shifted move it
    back to the peg.

    My guess is that the majority of the other 40+ posts in this thread (that I
    haven't read yet) are telling you this same thing.
     
    Jamin Kortegard, Sep 2, 2003
    #23
  4. He wasn't attacking you. It was a funny play on words from a typo.
    Just like the "police help Dog bite victim" headlines. He wasn't saying
    anything about you or your typing ability or your intelligence.
    It was a simple joke. chill dude.

    Bruce
     
    Bruce B Hartweg, Sep 2, 2003
    #24
  5. For about the 10th time, Timberwoof's joke about Beowulf being written in
    Morse code (spurred by your typo) was not an "attack" on you. I read it as a
    lighthearted joke at no one's expense, not a scornful condemnation.

    Your inflammatory reaction and hair-trigger killfiling were pretty
    surprising to me. I think you might have over-reacted a bit in the first
    place, because it certainly never seemed to me (nor to many others, judging
    by the posts here) that anyone was ridiculing you for a simple typo.

    Just for the record, the above comments were not meant as an attack, but
    simply as friendly advice.
     
    Jamin Kortegard, Sep 2, 2003
    #25
  6. Grendel

    Grendel Guest

    Sorry for having bad technique guys. This is my first bike, and until the
    past 2 months I haven't ridden it heavily. Meaning mostly I did straight
    line highway type rides. NOw however I am doing twisties. Good thing that
    this happened as you are all correct in that I have bad technique. Hopefully
    the dealer will be able to tell me if I have done permanent damage to the
    bike or not. Thanks all for your info.
     
    Grendel, Sep 3, 2003
    #26
  7. Grendel

    Timberwoof Guest

    ::Blush::

    Thank you, P.
     
    Timberwoof, Sep 3, 2003
    #27
  8. Timberwoof wrote:When I first read Swack Daddy's howls of outrage at my dotty wit,
    I
    don't sweat he - he overreacted big-time your post was harmless and amusing
    his outrage and willy-nilly killfile trigger are funny and sad
    LOL - I like that.

    Bruce
     
    Bruce B Hartweg, Sep 3, 2003
    #28
  9. Oh, and learn to snip sigs as well.

    <aside>

    He's going to have an awfully boring time of it, only talking to
    himself, isn't he?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 3, 2003
    #29
  10. And I.

    Swack's probably being measured for the optional extra saddlebags.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 3, 2003
    #30
  11. Yeah... I've done that before, too. Posted a message that later one I wish I
    could have worded differently, though no harm was intended.
    It does make one wonder: why the over-sensitivity? People are people, I
    guess, to quote an '80s band that I didn't really listen to that much.
     
    Jamin Kortegard, Sep 3, 2003
    #31
  12. Grendel

    Mirko Guest

    You are correct.

    Mirko
    96 7R
     
    Mirko, Sep 3, 2003
    #32
  13. No apology necessary. Sorry you've been doing mostly straight line highway
    rides. :)
    Learning how to ride better is a never-ending process. Thank goodness it's
    so much fun!
    Good luck with the bike. Hopefully you won't need major repairs.
     
    Jamin Kortegard, Sep 3, 2003
    #33
  14. Grendel

    Ajax Paving Guest

    Did this poor guy ever get an answer to his question? (besides"keep your
    foot off the shift lever" I couldn't help that one!)
     
    Ajax Paving, Sep 3, 2003
    #34
  15. Just as well he's allready killfiled you, with a comment like that . . .
     
    bartshumandad, Sep 4, 2003
    #35
  16. Unfortunately, I didn't crosspost my answer to every newsgroup on
    usenet. So I shall commit the sin of crossposting and hope I will not
    go to hell...

    You do have to remove the clutch basket to get access to this spring.
    It takes about an hour and you might have to improvise a tool for
    removing the lock nut.

    It is the spring that pushes the pawl into the shift drum. My spring
    appeared not have much resiliance, but I could bend it at an extreme
    angle and shoehorn it back in there. After that, the shifts had a very
    positive snap. I could once again do clutchless wheelies when shifting.
    My second gear which was completely unusable now was 100% reliable and
    hit the rear tire hard.

    I'm sure a local industrial supplier of springs could fabricate one of
    better quality spring steel while you wait. Any town or city that has
    industry should have such a shop that can make springs within a half an
    hour drive.

    My shifting was rather iffy from the beginning on my F4 and deteriated
    to skipping out of gears, onto the next, or just hammering the gears.
    Replacing the gears that had extrememly worn dogs seemed to have cured
    it. For a few thousand miles. That's when I knew something was wrong
    and tried putting the squeeze on this spring. I'm glad I found it. The
    difference in shifting feel gave me back complete confidence the bike
    could be abused once again.

    This spring gives shifting its entire feel. A weak spring can give the
    false impression of a "notchy" feel when actually its the dogs banging
    hard at the last moment. A strong spring will mate the gears instantly
    giving quiet shifts. This is possible as the gears are short and narrow
    with little mass. My case was there was little spring pressure on the
    pawl to keep the shift drums snapping into place. The gears would
    sometimes wander around and making a rattling noise that appeared to
    come from the valve train! Putting the squeeze into this spring made my
    engine quieter too.

    It was an evil spring. This spring tormented me for 50,000 miles until
    I found it. I hope this isn't a problem with all Hondas. If it is, I
    hope they fixed it. I need to buy a new bike soon. Some moron decided
    to steal mine recently.
     
    Duane Attaway, Sep 7, 2003
    #36
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