SF, SG and SJ oils

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by jsno8192, Aug 27, 2005.

  1. jsno8192

    jsno8192 Guest

    Hello All

    I've got a GSX-R1000 (2001 model). I'm noticing that it's
    really hard to get API SF/SG oil now days... as these
    standards are now obsolete/superceded.

    For example, the the primary oil brand at one bike
    shop in Adelaide is Mobil 1 SuperSyn (which is API SJ).
    The salesmen told me that this oil supercedes SG and SH
    and perfectly fine to run in my bike.

    I've had a quick look on the net. It's a confusing
    mess. I did come across one API spec page that loosely
    said that SJ replaces SH, and SH replaces SG.

    What's other peoples opinion ?

    Is it safe to use API SJ oil in a 2001 gsxr ?


    cheers ;)

    Jason
     
    jsno8192, Aug 27, 2005
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  2. jsno8192

    J5 Guest

    head to Kmart/BigW and you will find SF/SG oils
    IIRC BMW said never use SJ , warranty void if found
    what brand were you using before ?
     
    J5, Aug 27, 2005
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  3. jsno8192

    rockit Guest

    What sort of oil do you think they are using in all the racing bikes these
    days? The motors in Suzi's at least, are merely built on the base motor as
    found in your bike, and they are made to perform in a manner is unliely to.
    You said it all in your introduction.
    Rockit
     
    rockit, Aug 27, 2005
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    Hugh Guest

    snip
    Err on one of recent telecasts,team boss [wsbk]said the oil they use cost
    $2000 a race.Suggest there must be some difference.Hugh
     
    Hugh, Aug 27, 2005
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  5. On a Jaguar forum I frequent, it's been discussed a lot.
    The feeling is that the newer classifications are manufactured for
    newer engines with roller cams, cams acting directly on valves etc.
    These newer formulations are way down on additives such as zinc, which
    is an anti scuff agent, reducing wear in high pressure/load areas.
    It probably doesn't matter on a motorbike engine, with overhead cams
    etc, but it may.
    I've found teh older formulations have yet to be changed. Like the
    original Castrol GTX.

    Regards, Andrew.
     
    Andrew Puddifer, Aug 27, 2005
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  6. jsno8192

    rockit Guest

    Hmmm? firstly pardon the bad copy in my previous post; seem to be making a
    bit of a habit of it lately?
    As well as that misdemeanor, my reference (unexplained)
    was more directed at the average punter racing around our Aus. tracks.
    I suppose in that regard, their demand for engine longevity differs from
    that of the road rider. Ah well!
    Rockit
     
    rockit, Aug 28, 2005
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    Mark Guest

    Here is an opinion stick with fully synthetic oil you wont have problems
    Mark
     
    Mark, Aug 29, 2005
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  8. jsno8192

    Mark Guest

    race motors dont run oils for very long the aplication is diferent to road
    use !!
    Mark
     
    Mark, Aug 29, 2005
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  9. jsno8192

    Mark Guest

    The issue with motor cycle oils is the fact that most use engine oil in gear
    box that breaks oils down quicker
    The issue with motor cycle oils is the fact that most use engine oil in gear
    box that breaks oils down quicker more so with thicker additives with long
    molcules !
    Mark
     
    Mark, Aug 29, 2005
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  10. jsno8192

    jsno8192 Guest

    Thank you all for your responses. It has cleared the
    confusion.

    Cheers.

    jason
     
    jsno8192, Sep 3, 2005
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