Serial power cuts, and why pedestrians should be strangled at birth ...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SD, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. SD

    SD Guest

    Sat at work this evening, toiling away, when we get plunged into
    darkness. No lights, PCs, nowt.

    So much for last weekend's UPS test.

    Leave to pick madam up, and Canon St is in complete darkness - the
    power outage has been centred on the station.

    Dozens of pedestrians were milling about in the road like a remake of
    Shaun of the Dead. Even flashing headlights and multiple use of the
    horn failed to shift some of them. High volume verbal abuse managed it
    in the end.

    Get home, start to download ukrm, and the whole estate is plunged into
    darkness for around 2 seconds - cue the alarm symphony.
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    |_\_____/_| ..93550../..25068.../..31928.
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG*
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11
    '^' RBR Clues: 00 Pts:0000 Miles:0000
     
    SD, Dec 12, 2007
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    dog Guest

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7141323.stm

    a small fire -> (tens of?) thousands of people milling around in chaos.
     
    dog, Dec 13, 2007
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  3. SD

    CT Guest

    Health & Safety innit?

    Noticed how when you hear the travel news these days, there are loads
    of incidents of full-on motorway closures? I'm sure it never used to
    be like that. The other day, I heard a report where one motorway was
    due to have a carriageway fully closed due to a broken down lorry.
     
    CT, Dec 13, 2007
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  4. SD

    platypus Guest

    platypus, Dec 13, 2007
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  5. SD

    dog Guest

    right. some of those people looked hungry.
     
    dog, Dec 13, 2007
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  6. Who was it said that we are only a few meals away from barbarism?

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Dec 13, 2007
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  7. SD

    dog Guest

    i don't know, but larry niven and jerry pournelle wrote in "lucifer's
    hammer" that any society was only 3 meals away from revolution.
     
    dog, Dec 13, 2007
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  8. SD

    darsy Guest

    just think of it as evolution in action.
     
    darsy, Dec 13, 2007
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  9. SD

    dog Guest

    it's not every day you get to see own goals scored quite so spectacularly.

    no, wait a minute, this is ukrm. it *is* every day...
     
    dog, Dec 13, 2007
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  10. SD

    John B Guest

    Robert A. Heinlein said it, I seem to remember Isaac Asimov saying it
    and I think Arthur C. Clarke said it.
     
    John B, Dec 13, 2007
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  11. SD

    darsy Guest

    a) where? In many cases "barbarism" or "revolution" would be the
    correct answers
    b) here: "" have some quotation marks.
     
    darsy, Dec 13, 2007
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    sweller Guest

    I'd guess the main problem was the station being closed - the punters
    would be milling about waiting for it to re-open.

    It's quite impressive the chaos and crowding that even a brief station
    closure can cause. Particularly one the main commuter stations.
     
    sweller, Dec 14, 2007
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  13. SD

    dog Guest

    no! really?
    you say that as if it comes as a bit of a surprise to you.

    wait, i get it. it's 17:00 in the fat controller's office:

    - there's a small fire in the gym next door. the smoke alarm went off but
    nobody's stuck in there. the fire service have arrived and are putting
    it out now with a small hand held extinguisher.
    - gosh! well, health & safety and all that, better shut the station down.
    - you sure about that boss? it is rush hour, after all.
    - well, it won't affect that many people, will it? anyway it'll only be for
    an hour or so. and it's for their own good really.
    - it's not serious enough to close the tube station, boss...
    - best be on the safe side. more than my job's worth you know.

    .... time passes ...

    - golly, look at all those people. amazing. you'd never have thought it.
    - of course not, boss.
     
    dog, Dec 14, 2007
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  14. SD

    sweller Guest

    I'd misread what you'd meant there as the original report stated only a
    100 people were affected.

    Not at all, it's the speed you get to crush levels of crowding at
    mainline stations if you stop the flow - usually a minute or two -
    that's frighteningly impressive. As those joining the ever increasing
    crush can't see what's happening they just keep coming.

    They did exactly that one November twenty years ago and since thirtyish
    people died the railways have been very wary of small fires within
    stations - particularly ones under ground with chimney effects.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
     
    sweller, Dec 14, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    Paddington can be a fearsome place when the trains are fucked. I
    remember arriving there one time, standing at the top of the ramp, and
    it was like being at the back of a crowd at a festival - a sea of
    thousands of people, all loitering with nothing to do.
     
    ogden, Dec 14, 2007
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