Seems a tad harsh to me ...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by rick, Oct 28, 2009.

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    darsy Guest

    as long as he's not got an evil twin...
     
    darsy, Oct 30, 2009
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    They've been charging for rescues in the French Alps for years now but
    you can either pay separate insurance or join the BMC and get it free.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 30, 2009
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    YTC#1 Guest

    I see nothing wrong in charging for mountain rescue, as most people
    would be insured they may as well recover it. And they arn't they are
    just thick cunts
     
    YTC#1, Oct 30, 2009
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I see nothing wrong with charging for rescue as long as the people
    doing the rescuing are being paid to do it. The fact is that in this
    country they're all volunteers and often end up out of pocket for
    assisting in rescues.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 30, 2009
  5. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the

    Thick cunts in trainers and light clothing and no clue. The Spaniards
    are talking about (have may actually introduced) full charge, but at the
    discretion of the MR team. This could be up to ¤7K for a small rescue
    and ¤Fuckbettersellthehouse for a full-blown effort.
    Heard a bod from a MR team yesterday saying it cost an average of
    £250/hour to run an MR team and that's not including chopper, etc.
    My sympathies have always been with the MR guys as, apart from the
    genuine accidents, a helluva lot of callouts are caused by numpties.
    Fwiw, I've never ventured on the hills without a reasonable idea of
    where I'm going, how long I'll be, and somebody knows when I'll be back,
    etc. I've seen and heard of too many fatalities in apparently benign
    terrain and weather that suddenly turned nasty.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 31, 2009
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Did you realise that MR teams are called out to assist in recovering
    someone who might have simply been walking along a footpath, slipped
    and broke their ankle? They don't have to be on a mountain, they just
    have to need recovering from somewhere that a normal ambulance crew
    wouldn't be able to cope unaided.

    They're also called out to recover farm animals that have slid down a
    gulley, trail riders and mountain bikers who've either fallen off or
    broken down and nut jobs that have decided to sit on a mountain until
    they freeze to death.
    They must be dividing the annual cost of operating a team by the
    number of hours they're out doing the business so in an ideal World
    it'd cost £10k/hour.

    I've climbed plenty of routes on mountains where I didn't have a clue
    how long it'd take to complete and I've also bivvied on mountains
    quite happy in the knowledge that some interfering **** might see my
    car still parked up at midnight and assume I was in the shit. I've
    also seen people stupid enough to leave a note inside their windscreen
    saying when they expected to be back return to find a smashed window
    and their car emptied of anything valuable.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 31, 2009
  7. Ain't that the truth. Groups of people deciding to walk up Snowdon in
    T-shirts and trainers....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 31, 2009
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    Alex Ferrier Guest

    Yep.

    Some years back some mates and I were winter climbing up on
    trinity buttress, there was deep snow but it was a beautiful
    clear sunny day. Having walked in, early in the morning, and
    been on the cliff for most of the day. When we finally topped
    out, the summit was mobbed by just such a crowd of poorly
    dressed tourists.

    Some had managed to scramble up the pyg track through the
    snow, using steps made by earlier, properly kitted out,
    walkers/climbers. Having no proper gear they were getting
    very cold and struggling to reverse their footsteps. Its much
    more dangerous going down than up, in those conditions.

    As we were walking down, we came across this group stalled
    at the top of a big, steep snow slope. They were trying to
    go back down but could see it was too dangerous for them to
    try. After about 10 minutes of lending them spare ice axes
    and cutting steps and trying to generally shepard them down
    safely. We gave up and fairly forceably sent them back to
    the summit to walk back down the far safer tourist track to
    Llanberis. The inconvenience of a long delay and having to
    get a taxi back up to their car at Pen-y-pass, was
    preferrable to having one of them slip and kill themselves.
     
    Alex Ferrier, Oct 31, 2009
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    Beav Guest

    Given no others were even on the road, they'd contend that you yourself were
    in danger.


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Oct 31, 2009
  10. Heh. It's a risk you take, or not. I stopped just dumping my car and
    wandering off when I nearly caused a callout. The local MR were on alert
    after a stupid pair of so-called 'guides' of a party of walkers left a
    heart attack victim and his sister for later recovery and they couldn't
    be found. The bloke croaked it and so did his sister from exposure.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 31, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    2 years inside, mandatory ban and extended re-test.
     
    ogden, Nov 1, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    Kinetic energy is the important thing, surely? Unless you're trying to
    work out how far a pedestrian's going to bounce after a collision, that
    is.
     
    ogden, Nov 1, 2009
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    mark Guest

    Don't they get a policeman in for that?
     
    mark, Nov 4, 2009
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Might have done.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 5, 2009
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    mark, Nov 5, 2009
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