Seems a tad harsh to me ...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by rick, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. rick

    'Hog Guest

    Wiv a bread knife anna soldering iron
     
    'Hog, Oct 29, 2009
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  2. rick

    YTC#1 Guest

    Being out of town, does not mean that no one else was there.

    In this case it may well have just been the plod with the hairdryers :)
     
    YTC#1, Oct 29, 2009
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  3. rick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I'm lucky because I can compare it to places where I've worked and
    we've got it pretty fucking good.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 29, 2009
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  4. rick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I waited until after my op before posting to ukrm. I was too busy
    getting sorted out for a 9am appointment with the knife to post here
    when I'd checked in.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 29, 2009
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  5. rick

    Cab Guest

    Maybe, but speed was involved.
     
    Cab, Oct 29, 2009
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  6. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Cab
    Speed, possibly.

    Speeding? As in exceeding the speed limit? In thick fog, 40MPH can be
    suicidal. But is perfectly legal (from a "speeding" viewpoint) in a 70
    limit.

    So, no. It wasn't "speeding" that caused these deaths. It was fucking
    terrible driving.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 29, 2009
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  7. rick

    72degrees Guest

    I can think of one or two scenarios involving other road users (given
    inappropriate speed for the situation - but then that *should* be
    treated as DD whatever the actual speed) , but are you arguing for
    some kind of speed/weight/frontal area ratio to be applied to limits
    (ignoring those already relating to some HGVs)?
     
    72degrees, Oct 30, 2009
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    You should not be done for DD unless the prosecutiion can point to
    someone who was actually endangered by your riding.
     
    Colin Irvine, Oct 30, 2009
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  9. rick

    72degrees Guest

    Fair enough, but does there actually have to be a collision or will a
    'near miss' (perhaps because of the other road user managing to take
    evasive action) do?
     
    72degrees, Oct 30, 2009
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  10. rick

    YTC#1 Guest

    A sensible point, except the person monitoring your speed would be the
    one to be endangered :)

    And any resultant damage/blood guts that is viewed by an innocent passer
    by may make them scarred for life (hence injured)
     
    YTC#1, Oct 30, 2009
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  11. rick

    72degrees Guest

    Can't fault the logic. Just can't see it being factored in to speed
    limits (on roads rather then particular vehicles), or the enforcment
    of them. A pity really.
    <pats sports 125>
     
    72degrees, Oct 30, 2009
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  12. I don't think it's been out of print, or at least unavailable - a new
    demand arises when each wave of LOTR sweeps the nations.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 30, 2009
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  13. Don't move to Spain. They've introduced a charge for mountain rescue,
    apparently it's steep.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 30, 2009
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  14. That'd be no good. Some drivers have conniptions when they see couriers
    nipping in and out of gaps. Perspective is a dangerous thing.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 30, 2009
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    darsy Guest

    hah - I've never seen you post anything funny before.

    Well done.
     
    darsy, Oct 30, 2009
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  16. "Sergei Prokofiev, defending, said his client had not used the money to
    fund a luxurious lifestyle but to buy her children clothes."

    I wonder if her brief knocked her up a tune.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 30, 2009
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  17. rick

    72degrees Guest

    Good point. Unlikely to be an 'expert witness' about to give an
    unbiased opinion.

    It does raise the question of how the 'precautionary principle' should
    or should not be applied in respect of road traffic law. Interesting
    to apply the 'nobody was actually hurt' argument to other fields of
    public protection. This would probably receive a great deal of support
    in principle from most of UKRM. It could, however, relegate some
    pollution, HSW and food safety legislation in to the 'closing the
    stable door after the horse has bolted' category.
     
    72degrees, Oct 30, 2009
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  18. rick

    darsy Guest

    OK - that's twice in one day: who are you and what have you done with
    the real "Grimly Curmodgeon".
     
    darsy, Oct 30, 2009
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    Pip Guest

    I think he's peaked now, though.
     
    Pip, Oct 30, 2009
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