Second Post of Series

Don't worry about Albert+Ass (or was that Nurick+Ass?), he's more
concerned someone might be able to do something on a motorcycle that
he's scared to do. Of course, he's still used to his mopeds...so it
might be awhile before he learns to ride that Yamaha like it's
supposed to be ridden.

 

You're right. We'll have to agree to disagree at this point. You
weren't there. You don't know the situation. There wasn't a wreck. I
was in control of my machine. Nothing bad happened. Two idiots on a
bicycle were left on that highway still peddling and alive because 7
motorcycles didn't hit them and chose to control their machines and go
around. If that's unsafe to you, then you might want to re-evaluate
what you consider unsafe. To me, unsafe would be not being in control
and hitting the obstruction.

But, to each his own.

 

Well we agree that it depends on the rider. Someone who rides
wheelies all the time is probably just as in control of their bike as
someone who never rides very well and is speeding down the highway.
Again, I'm not advocating it. I agree that being on two wheels is
safer, especially if you are in a situation where the unknown can
happen (like a freeway).

Given your argument, the OUTSIDE of the lane would have been the
safest as it would have allowed the most time for someone to see the
bicycle and given them the most options for an "out" in the event they
needed to make evasive maneuvers off the road. ;-)

NASCAR - now THOSE guys know how to drive......
around in circles...
to the left....
no worries.
LOL

As much as I hear what you are saying I had to laugh. I think NASCAR
has got to be the most laughable form of racing (if you can call it
that) on the planet.

I'm not sure it's a perspective of broadening my view. I've heard all
the arguments on both sides.

It's not really about breaking the law, not breaking the law,
whatever. What it comes down to is common sense. MOST people, when
traveling significantly slower than others on the road will get OUT of
the way because they realize they are endangering themselves and
others by going so much slower than the flow of traffic.

In this particular case, the guy on the bicycle didn't exercise common
sense and that is what I am talking about. One might say that I
wasn't exercising common sense, but I didn't hit the guy. The guy
did, however decide to STAY in the middle of the road even though
there were more bikes coming (I didn't know this at the time because I
was already gone, but apparently the whole pack had difficulty with
him). Not good common sense in my opinion.

If my truck has problems or I am hauling something heavy and can't get
up any significant speed, I am not going to sit in the fast lane on
the freeway and do 30mph without my hazards on, even if I can legally
do it.

That even goes back to the guy riding the wheelie. It's not that they
ride the wheelie, they may be very good at it....and it's not illegal,
but we would probably both agree it's not good common sense.

--Fullstate

 

As sick of hearing about this as I am, I must input once more. Even
though Mike wasn't there, he seems to know quite a bit about this
situation. As I recall, and as I already said (many times) there were
7 motorcycles who had to steer around the bicycle who wouldn't even
maintain a lane position to aid in safety. As I also recall, we were
sitting in the gas station getting ready to head back to Hico when
they peddled along the stretch of road still riding the same way...and
that was a straight part of the road with no obstructions.

By Mike's theory of what makes "unsafe riding", I'd have to ask at
what speed would be considered "safe" to him?

 

Again, you weren't there and don't know. Again, I didn't hit them and
therefore I was in complete control of my machine at the time.

Whether I dislike someone being unsafe in front of me and causing me
to have to avoid them is irrelevant to whether I'm riding safe or not.
Using the idea that if I'm "angry" about someone on a bicycle being
unsafe to say that I am unsafe and not in control of my machine is
just simply stupid.

 

TOP POST

This is crazy.. I didn't intend to be involved in this idiocy, furthur..
Your continuing to make your stupid claims of "rights" .. "safety" and all
this nonsense has gone to riciculous proportions... Apparently.. you believe
that some of you spandex morons invented riding bicycles.. Not the case, my
friend.. Any fool who rides the way that jerkoff was riding, even with his
wife on the back of that thing, has a serious death wish, and the only
reason he is not six feet under, today is because 7 alert bikers avoided
wiping his stupid ass out, that day... I don't challenge another vehicle for
right of way on my motorcycle.. I yield in the face of prudence and my own
safety... That is common sense and that bicyclist didn't display any sense
of propriety... You have heard from seven of us that were there, that day...
We saw the conditions and the circumstances of the incident.. YOU DID NOT..
You know NOTHING about any of it.. Yet you keep creating scenarios to
justify the actions of a FOOL... That is ample evidence of your own juvenile
idiocy.. With all your bullshit and criticism of the way this incident
actually happened, you keep talking about safety, visibility and rights of
that bicyclist.. Bullshit.. SLOWER FUCKING VEHICLES KEEP RIGHT....
butthole...

 

Your concern is touching, to say the least... Get a life...

 

Well that is not quite true. We hope and pray a bit..... and don't
forget the pucker factor. ;-)

I don't expect special treatment, I just expect people to not be
morons. Keep in mind I was the first, so I had a bit different set of
circumstances than any of the bikes that followed.

Isn't that what I said? Move to the outside of the lane to be seen
sooner on a left-hand sweeper? If you are on the inside, or apex,
you will not be seen as soon as if you are on the outside of the lane.

That's bullshit....I am not slowing my bike down from 60mph (or
more?), which I think was the speed limit to appease a guy on a
bicycle traveling at under 20mph on a highway. Not that I'll kill the
guy to not slow down, but c'mon.

After I saw the bike, I think the effect of the curve being "blind"
was negligible, though it was some time ago and my memory could be
foggy.

No, not really..... I just don't find NASCAR all that stimulating
compared to other forms of racing. The skill level required to run
NASCAR is significantly less than in other forms of racing such as
Formula 1.

No, that is exactly what YOU are missing. Nobody expected the guy to
take a dive off the road. But he made absolutely NO effort to get out
of the way at all.

Coast was clear.... ;-)

See now, I would disagree. It is absolutely the bicyclist concern.
You are stating that because I am a vehicle and I have the law on my
side to be in the road that I should be ignorant of what else is going
on around me. That is not true for bicyclist, motorcyclist or cagers.

BTW - did you ever ask me if I ride bicycles? Nope. It so happens
that i do ride bicycles. But, no matter what I am riding or driving I
make an effort to be aware of what is going on around me and be
courteous to those that are also on the road with me.

You are saying it IS good common sense to cause a dangerous condition
on the road just because you legally have the right to do so?

Nope, uh-huh, wrong, sorry.....don't pass go and collect $200 on your
way to jail. He may not have known if the number was 2 or 3 or 50,
but there is no way in God's green earth that the guy didn't know
there was a pack of 'em. A lady pulled up to a gas station after the
run and said she could hear us for almost a mile off. So, unless the
guy was completely deaf (which is possible) he had to know there were
other bikes. If he was deaf, you would think that after the second
one he would at least be a bit more cautious.

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they are doing it for fun even if nobody is
around. In fact, I'm more likely to ride a wheelie when there isn't
anybody around. I am certainly not showing off for someone.

Anyway, MIke...I am not dogging you, I just find your logic flawed. I
don't wish any will upon anyone on the road, especially another
biker....but you will have a hard time convincing me that that
particular guy on that particular bike on that particular stretch of
road at that particular moment was exercising common sense and being a
safe bicyclist.

And....as one last note, you weren't there....I was....if only for a
fleeting moment. ;-)


--Fullstate

 

BINGO!!!

We have a WINNER!!!

This is the WHOLE point. The bicyclist was more about "what is or
isn't required by law" than "geez, I need to use common sense and get
out of the other rider's way before I get hit...or worse".

One motorcyclist, I can understand. Two, well, that's pushing it.
Three, four, five, six and seven...now that's just piss ignorance and
trying to make a "statement" because "the law doesn't require it".

 

Mike, come on...the one's who were there have already said that this
was in all conditions of the road from complete straights to left and
right curves.

The problem with you is that you're trying too hard to defend that
buffoon that you fail to see that he was WRONG. This was 7 motorcycles
over a period of about 4 or 5 minutes that could easily be heard for
quite some time coming through the roadway. No one has advocated
bullying bicyclists, but the guy was clearly in the wrong and you're
the only one who can't seem to see it. He was simply trying to make a
statement out there and had it been motorcyclists who wanted to
"bully" a bicyclist, it could've turned out very different.

One more note, you weren't there. I didn't see or hear of anyone who
passed the guy unsafely or didn't give the guy plenty of room while
making his little statement. We all talked about it when we got into
the gas stop, but we didn't run at the guy as he pulled in with clubs
and trashcans to beat him senseless (as if you could get him anymore
senseless). That one fool and his girlfriend/wife were alive and able
to continue making their statement because 7 motorcycles were able to
handle their bikes around him.

From the description of your "safety", I'd have to say that you and I
would never ride together...I don't ride with anyone who rides unsafe
and you definately ride "unsafe" by going from highway speeds down to
10mph because a bicyclist is on the highway...when it would be better
to simply go around him and not worry with it. You strike me as a very
unsafe rider who would equal if not exceed the level of unsafe riding
as the wheelie rider. Personally, I'd hate to see what you might do if
you ever had a car pull out in front of you. I sure wouldn't want to
be behind you when I found out.

 

I'd have to wonder what "multiple laws" I broke in the process of
"thinking first then taking action". I thought I put plenty of thought
into it when I avoided hitting a bicycle who was weaving in the middle
of a highway. I wasn't aware there was a law that stated that I had to
stop for the bicycle. I wasn't aware that there was a law that stated
I had to buy them a sandwich at the next stop. What "multiple laws"
were broken by avoiding this bicycle?

 

What is wrong with anyone who doesn't understand that if you are on a
highway that is posted for highway speeds, and they are in a vehicle that
will only travel 5 - 20 mph, that you should travel to the far right of the
goddam road.. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ? Sheesh..

You are a fucking idiot... And you get sillier with each post...

If the piss ignorant bicyclist doesn't understand a simple rule of the road,
"Slower Traffic Keep Right", then he doesn't need to be on that freakin'
road...

Seven of us were riding safe enough to make sure two moronic bicyclists
lived to impede and obstruct traffic another day... Damn.. how fucking
stupid can anyone get...

 

That is not HIS right.. When anyone is endangering the other traffic on a
public highway, HIS rights have stopped.. You can't believe all this shit,
you keep spouting on here...

 

If I'm riding 10mph or less and on a highway...yes, I'd get the hell
out of their way!

And you keep saying the "required by law", I'm not "required by law"
to remain behind a bicycle who isn't even going the speed limit.
"Defending the lane"? On a bicycle? Are you high?

You give bicyclists a bad image. The only thought many who I've heard
from and reading what you're writing have is just getting pissed off
at bicyclists. I doubt seriously that other bicyclists would agree
about your theory of "defending a lane" while riding a bicycle. I'd
like to see you "defend your lane" while riding that bicycle on IH-635
in Dallas.

As I've said before, you're dangerous and unsafe. If what you say here
is any indication of your riding abilities (either bicycle or
motorcycle), I would hate to be around you in a "panic situation".

 

Geez! I'll donate $100 to the "cause" to have you apply this logic to
IH-635. Do exactly what you're writing here for 2 miles from (we'll
make it easy on you) Centerville to Northwest Highway.

Are you up to it?

I want to hear you shout to the cars and trucks this same logic. I
want to hear you tell the police who stop you this same logic. I want
to hear you put this to a jury and see the look on their faces. 2
miles is all I want. I don't know if you'd make it until the police
pull you off the road and tell you what they think of your logic.

Defend the lane for 2 miles...not the shoulder, but the lane of
traffic. $100. It'll either be an easy $100 or you'll back out when
you see the traffic and change your tune. Are you up to it?

 

I'm getting together money...I want to see you apply your logic. I
want to see it in action! Defend your lane on IH-635 against the other
motorists forcing them to go completely outside the lane to pass you
while you peddle your bicycle in middle of the highway. If you can do
it for just two miles, which shouldn't be difficult since you're safe
and everyone else is courteous and will either wait or go around when
it is safe, then you'll pick up an easy $100 (or more...depending if
someone will put in the donation bucket). We can get "Mag" to beg for
money from reeky and have them donate some too!

Any problems with this? It's only two miles!

I'll give $200 to you if you'll peddle from Industrial to Oak Lawn on
I-35 at 1:30pm any given Wednesday on your bicycle...while defending
your lane in middle of the highway.

$200 to you if you'll peddle your bicycle from 75 Central to Montfort
Road on IH-635 middle of the weekday while defending your lane in
middle of the highway.

As experienced as you are, it shouldn't be difficult...easy money!

 

responding...

LMAO.. Finally got the "puppy" working .. huh.. Albie.. Get that "patent"
application in the mail, before it breaks down, again.. Hello... world..

 

Yeah Trash... You best keep ME "blocked" from your sorry ass... Don't worry
to much about the newsgroup bullshit, it is running into me on a highway
somewhere that should cause you concern...

 

Hmmm.. let's see now, Albie.. You can't ride a motorcycle, you don't own a
"serious" motorcycle.. Your inventions that you patent, don't have market
value.. Almost all your offerings on this newsgroup are directed toward the
"Big Walker" LMAO and the "Little Walker".. Damn... you don't have much to
offer at all, now do you ? Oh yeah.. Albie.. "Big Walker" will be in the
Houston area for the Democratic National Convention.. I will be mounted and
riding.. Where are you going to be ? Let me guess..

Bill Walker
Irving, Tx.

 

ROTFLMAO... I didn't offer to ride with that little nitwit prick, nor you
either.. You are exactly right.. If you think for one minute I like or have
any kind of affection for either one of you two turds, think again. What's
"possible" is that you and Albert Nurick both are in the same category with
that Trash, TexDays.. The three of you simple fucks wouldn't have anything
to post on this newsgroup, if it weren't for your bullshit directed at the
"Walkers"... **** off Morgan Kane..