scooters safer than motorcycles ???

eheh CrazyCam the last time I looked, you were pushing the Z50 off
Gladesville Bridge . Thought those things had more guts

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only 1 death in NSW ove the last 5 years .. scooters have an EXCELLANT
safety record

a diesel, really, how cool

 

Seen Quadrophenia?...

 

Yeah, it did come as a surprise.

I thought Hondas were supposed to be unbreakable.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Oh yes.

I was there then, but this is a different time and place.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Well _obviously!_ If they had any self-esteem they'd be riding a _real_
bike!

;-)

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I'm entitled to my opinion just as you're entitled to your opinion, no
matter how much of a prick you come across as...

 

Nev,

It is only my opinion, yes, but if you're asking me to believe the
premiums are the way they are because of safety, I don't trust the
gubment that they got it right.
Ask yourself this, Nev: Would jumping onto a vehicle less powerful
than most cars which you interact with, make you more of a risk or
less of a risk? Would you feel safe in towns frequented by hot hatches
and mad courier drivers? Have you ridden a scooter? I fucken doubt
it, and from what I've read, Nev, your posts are no more than the vile
ramblings of a shell of a man, and since it's harsh week, **** off nev!

I'm entitled to my opinion, and admit that it's not always right, but
so be it.

 

Just because it's a government agency does not mean the premiums are set
by the government. Are you suggesting that maybe there is some sort of
government conspiracy to encourage people to reduce the amount of tax
they pay by riding 50cc scooters and pay 1/7 the premium they would on a
larger capacity bike or in a car..?

Most motorcycles are less powerful than most cars. If the lack of power
produced by vulnerable vehicles increases the risk, why is the annual
road toll for motorcyclists 10 times that of bicyclists? The number of
potential collisions a bicyclists would incur per kilometre would be
hundreds of times that of a scooter in traffic.

No way. i'm too scared to ride one.. they're death traps.

So I suggested you might be wrong, and you admit you might be wrong, why
are you having such a big sook?

Nev..

 

I'm sure that like all insurance companies the exact formulae they use
are confidential, however I'd be interested if you think that this
insurance company would differ from every other insurance company and
choose some factor other than risk as the main basis of their premium
calculations, and if that is the case, even more surprised that they
reflect the structure of premiums of third party insurers in competitive
markets.

Nev..

 

Actually their main basis is profit, risk is just an important input
into the profit calculation, hence yes there could be a low risk and a
high premium (if they're a monopoly or some other reason they think they
can get away with it)

JL

 

In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 05 Dec 2005 00:59:39 +1100

And there's also assumptions.

The assumption in NSW is that a car is "normal" and everything else is
compared to it. I'm not fully up on the calculations, but it ends up
that motorcycles pay more than they need to and cars pay less. Not
because of risk, but because of the assumptions that went into the
models. THe numbers show that payouts to bikes are quite a bit less
than premiums collected.

TAC is going to have different numbers, but don't discount assumptions
in the model - they will make them, are they sensible?

Zebee

 

Risk relates to profit...or loss....name your market...
forex...shares...that buxom brunette by the bar last Friday night....the
pleasures of exceeding the designated speed limit....

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TAC premiums for vehicles garaged in suburban Melbourne

50cc scooter $58 (does not have to contribute to the $50 bike levy)
Car $347
Ute $348
Police bike $348
600cc bike $364 + $50 levy
Tow truck $647
MFB fire truck $876
Police car $1229
Prime mover $1404

Nev..

 

Licensing in WA
Scooter up to 75cc Licence $28, TPI $19.35
Bike up to 250 Licence $28, TPI $165.75
Bike over 250cc Licence $42 TPI $165.75

The TPI is very low on the scooters, probably because few can carry a
passenger.

Theo

 

chasing big bikes along the freeway They're so used to seeing fifty cc's
getting about they assume all sports scooters are slow. It's funny how they
have to try and outrun the dragster.....100, 110, 120, 130.....

 

Police bike $348

Waaaaitaminnit!

 

It's all skrocs fault!