scooter skills course

Hi,

My fiance has finally gotten her license and a Derby Atlantis 100cc
scooter.

Not much you might say but it's a good start and the thing is zippy enough
for Melbourne {inner} city riding.

I'm wondering if any of you can recommend a course she can attend to get
some better handling skills? Myself I did the government sponsored SAFE
course on Sandown + 2 superbike school days but the former is no longer
running and the latter isn't really applicable.

Thanks!
Jørgen
// CBR250RR since 01 {-> R6 2004 in June'04...}

 

Someone let Jorgen Smith at loose on
an internet connection and the result was:

do not lean back while twisting throttle to stop...a 50cc scooter will flip
you off the back real kwik...OMG 100cc...it'll have no rear guard in a week

courses...umm no sorry

scooter handling?? yes, much like a harley...only slower...with bigger
wobbles

mind you i havent ridden such since the work jog50 with the rear guard worn
away by the wheelie kings

looks like i need a sig
RM
1500 wing...many others

 

I would think that the same sort of skills and road awareness would apply to
a scooter as they would a bike. I guess you already know that a scooter is
probably a far more dangerous weapon with its upright sitting position and
its skinny little wheels, but I can understand ladies that find it a less
daunting proposition.

I'd 100% recommend the guy that I got my Ps with as a training
consideration. The place is called Transport Driver Training in Dandenong
and the guy to see is Tony ( 1800 350 320 ). You won't find a nicer, more
encouraging guy anywhere.

You can set up a one on one session and he'll go through emergency braking
techniques, counter steering and stuff like that.

You've done well though - my girl won't even get on the back of my bike !

Cheers

 

I have often seen statistics quoted that say 50% of all scooter riders
graduate to a regular motorcycle (TW seems to claim it the most). No idea
where these statistics come from, but I'm courteous to scooterists anyway,
just in case it is true.

Manning

 

Oh what a crock. Far more dangerous than what ? Your standard Vespa has quite
adequate brakes for the weight it's toting (which aint much) the tyres are quite
reasonable width for the size of the bike - of far more concern is the fact
they're small diameter which makes them a bit quick steering and potentially a
little skittish in windy conditions. Even so a current model Vespa handles
better than most 70's road bikes (and the tyres are a shit load better than what
we had back then).

And I'd LOVE an explanation of why an upright seating position makes it more
dangerous, puhleese !!! Better not tell those BMW and cruiser riders and as for
those chook chasers, jeez they must be suicidal.

Bizarre, the thought processes of some people.

JL
96 Bandit 12
89 KR1

 

What I meant is that the 'stool' like seating position on a scooter doesn't
allow you to grip the body of the bike, giving you a much better hold on the
machine.

I stand by what I say 100%. Scooters are not as safe or as aerodynamically
sound as a standard motorbike.

 

you're saying it's a 'shit' riding position huh?

....which you really need to do when you're punting your 50cc step through
around the racetrack with your arse off the seat and your knee on the kerb.

Which probably accounts for the huge proportion of road fatalities involving
scooter riders. In fact they're so dangerous several states allow you to ride
them on a car licence with no training or competency testing whatsoever.
These states obviously have too many unused hospital beds and too many
taxpayers.

Nev..
'02 CBR1100XX #2 lives on !! no ZX12R yet...

 

what are the stats ? I often wonder because when you hear about bikes on the
news they don't say either scooter or bike.

 

Yeah, they never say scooter on the news do they.... funny about that... and
never mind the statistics... they aren't going to do your point of view any
favours

Nev..
'02 CBR1100XX #2 lives on !! no ZX12R yet...

 

Yeah, they never say scooter on the news do they.... funny about that...
and

So you are honestly going to tell me that scooters are as safe (or as
dangerous) as a bike? Have you ever ridden one ? You feel like you're riding
a bar stool at 80 klms an hour.

 

I'm not going to tell you anything. No, I've never ridden one, unless you
count paying Balinese scooter owners a few thousand rupiah to pillion me back
to my hotel when I'm too pissed to walk, which probably doesn't count. Sure a
barstool might feel unsafe at 80kph... but how often do barstools actually
crash at that speed?

Nev..
'02 CBR1100XX #2 lives on !! no ZX12R yet...

 

Snip most....

Hi Nev, You have had a go at everything else....let us know how you
fair ;P

John