[QUOTE="Theo"] "Zebee Johnstone" wrote Not bad in stop-start traffic, considering the weight. Lousy turning circle. But it can cruise pretty effortlessly at 140 km/h. The 250 Bergman is obviously less powerful but can still cruise at 100 two-up on the freeway. Hills will slow it down.[/QUOTE] Hell the Vespa 180 will cruise at 110 two up (roughly 150Kg the pair of us) JL