Scene of the accident visited today....

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Donegal Paul, Dec 23, 2004.

  1. Barkers Lane?

    Have you got any witnesses?
    I think your stuffed from a damages POV, but I would rigorously defend
    any actual charges.

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    Colonel Tupperware, Dec 23, 2004
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  2. Donegal Paul

    Lozzo Guest

    steve auvache says...
    It might be what is written in the Highway Code, but the HC isn't about
    what's legal, it's a guide to safer driving.
     
    Lozzo, Dec 23, 2004
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  3. Donegal Paul

    Ben Guest

    Well, legally it's the only way she could have got into her house.
    And I must admit, I wouldn't be expecting someone to stop so soon
    after pulling out of a junction. Even if their indicator was going
    for the drive, I'd assume it was left on from pulling out from the
    side road.

    Tough call.
     
    Ben, Dec 23, 2004
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  4. While I agree the scooter rider was probably not 100% to blame for
    this, it is always wrong to assume that an indicator has been left on
    and that a second turn is or is not to be made. Under normal
    circumstances, you aim to to cover for both possibilities.
     
    Harry Bloomfield, Dec 23, 2004
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  5. Donegal Paul

    platypus Guest

    I'm not sure the turn across the broken crosshatching by the island is
    strictly illegal, but it's certainly a bit dodgy. If I was being a safety
    Nazi, I'd recommend she drives up to the roundabout and comes back on the
    other side of the road, where she can safely turn into her drive.
     
    platypus, Dec 23, 2004
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  6. Donegal Paul

    rb Guest

    I'm not sure, you are even allowed to cross a double solid white line
    to access property.

    And presumably DP managed to rear end her in the crosshatching? I
    suspect she might have had more right to be there than he did.

    DP, I think you need specialist advice on this. I hope you don't get
    done for the DCA thing but from what I've seen I can't see that it
    wasn't your fault.

    I've nearly got caught out like this myself. Car pulls out of petrol
    station on rhs into 50mph single carriageway. He's moving slowly and
    there is no other traffic about so I don't slow down and prepare for an
    overtake. Except he stays in the middle of the road (right turn lane)
    and turns right off the main road. The petrol station is right on the
    junction.

    You'll know this one Platy, it's the petrol station on the A38 by the
    Berkeley turning.

    Anyway, DP, best of luck.
     
    rb, Dec 23, 2004
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  7. Donegal Paul

    platypus Guest

    I used to come tanking down the road towards that junction on my way home
    from work, but I kept having to anchor up for traffic going in and out and
    every which way. Anyway, it's a 40 nowadays.
     
    platypus, Dec 23, 2004
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  8. Donegal Paul

    rb Guest

    <thinks: I'm sure it was 50 yesterday>

    There's 2 Berkeley turnings (to my mind). It's the one by the petrol
    station[1] not the one by the Applegates coach/bus workshops (which is
    a 40).

    [1] Berkeley Heath Motors perhaps?
     
    rb, Dec 23, 2004
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  9. Donegal Paul

    platypus Guest

    This one:

    http://www.multimap.com/map/photo.c...b=freegaz&pc=&zm=0&scale=5000&up.x=288&up.y=7

    I'm sure it's 40, but ICBW. Used to be NSL right through to Newport, which
    used to be a 50, but is now a 40.
    Fucknose.
     
    platypus, Dec 24, 2004
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  10. Donegal Paul

    rb Guest

    That's it. I like the OS overlay on the aerial map, hadn't seen that
    before.
    Taking us all down to the level of truckers.
     
    rb, Dec 24, 2004
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  11. Donegal Paul

    MikeH Guest

    I think that's a much more serious offence.

    Also you might catch something.
     
    MikeH, Dec 24, 2004
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  12. You can cross broken line outlined cross hatching if necessary, but
    not solid lined. You should treat solid lines a s a kerb.

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    Colonel Tupperware, Dec 24, 2004
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  13. Donegal Paul

    Donegal Paul Guest

    "Chas" says to "Donegal Paul"
    She didn't see me when she pulled into the traffic?

    So do i, but it won't stop me using it
    I thought that's what you were saying but thought I would give you the
    benefit of the doubt.
    Turns out you *are* a tit.
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    Donegal Paul, Dec 24, 2004
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  14. Donegal Paul

    Donegal Paul Guest

    "Colonel Tupperware" said to "Donegal Paul"
    Thats the one.
    Unfortunately no :-(
    Probably, but im definitely pleading not guilty to the charge
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    Maico Letta 247cc - Needs work!
    Bajaj Chetak 125 - Wannabe Vespa
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    Donegal Paul, Dec 24, 2004
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  15. Donegal Paul

    Ben Guest

    Oh, I know. Personally, I would have been filtering there in the
    first place, what with the junction and the keep left bollards to get
    round.
     
    Ben, Dec 24, 2004
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  16. Donegal Paul

    Mo Childs Guest

    Why does it "have to be" Everyone parked facing in on a drive could have
    reversed in and been facing out. And if you do that then you do the
    reversing when you can see the traffic. If you can't reverse into a drive
    you shouldn't be on the road.
     
    Mo Childs, Dec 24, 2004
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  17. Donegal Paul

    Pete Murray Guest

    As I recall, it's only illegal to reverse out on to a main road when
    you have the opportunity to turn the car before doing so. So, given
    a small drive it is not possible, and therefore the (admittedly more
    dangerous manoeuvre) is permitted.

    Further recall suggests that this little nugget came to my attention
    as the result of a private motorist suggesting that the coppers who
    had just followed him into his drive to give him a ticket for some
    misdemenour be prosecuted for reversing on to the main road, since
    the aforementioned drive was large enough to turn first. Even
    further recollection suggests that his driving days were numbered
    thereafter, since a result of this vendetta was that every cop
    pulled him on sight.
     
    Pete Murray, Dec 24, 2004
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  18. Donegal Paul

    Mo Childs Guest

    I really can't imagine a drive which would be impossible to reverse into if
    you could reverse out of it. Can you describe one?
     
    Mo Childs, Dec 25, 2004
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  19. Donegal Paul

    Pete Murray Guest

    OK, I was a little unclear in that. I meant a drive that you can
    turn in; so drive in forwards, turn, then drive out forwards. No
    reversing at all.
     
    Pete Murray, Dec 25, 2004
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  20. Donegal Paul

    Mo Childs Guest

    OK, I was a little unclear in that. I meant a drive that you can
    You would think there'd be something better to do on Xmas day than have a
    discussion about reversing into or out of drives. I'd better get back to the
    Brussel Sprouts.
     
    Mo Childs, Dec 25, 2004
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