Safe?

Yet again this is 3 in the past 8 days all in Qld and the bikers own faults
......people need to understand you don't get a second chance when you are
dead it isn't a movie.

http://abc.net.au/news/items/200702/1856901.htm?goldcoast

 

Could you please **** off back to your church organ or whatever it is
you normally annoy people with, you sermonising ****-knuckle troll?

 

Last week I watched a jay-walking iPodder nearly get hit by a taxi
driving down the wrong side of Elizabeth Street in Sydney CBD. Still
not sure who I felt less sorry for.

 

Yep just what I was talking about can't be told or shown anything because
they always know better . The one just killed knew he could pass a car on a
corner easily....Maybe just maybe one day your kids will get it obviously
you won't Einstein.

 

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Andrew

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**** it, I'll play.

By your own admission, you're scared of bikes.

I've now been riding for getting on for nine years, I'm closing in on
180,000km ridden on over a dozen different bikes I've owned for a period
of time, and in this crowd, that makes me a fledgling.

How, exactly, do you reason that any opinion you might have to offer on
anything bike-related in here would be seen as anything other than
stupefyingly obvious, and how is it that you don't see that a person
who, by their own admission, knows nothing about a topic on which
they're trying to speak with authority, is going to come across as a
self-important cockspank?

Once you've answered that, the instruction stands... cram your ignorant
sanctimony back up your arse and **** off back to church.

 

I am sorry for touching a raw truth nerve. I just hear nearly every week a
bike goes down and kills a young or older person just when I am thinking of
jumping on one. I try to figure out why this happens and it seems as though
it is preventable to a big extent by the rider him/herself so it gives me
hope that I can prevent that for myself at least.

 

Nicely put, I'll second the motion.

Bill_h

 

Can you be a bit clearer on what your telling him pls.

 

I would too but I'm not on-line for the next week 'cause I'm travelling.

 

It's pretty generic, but weighted toward lane changers. The biggest
difference though is the total lack of contrition and in some cases,
clear premeditation. Without the vest, I get fewer of all the types
you mentioned and when it does happen the driver is typically
apologetic in some way. With the vest I get people who:

-Are offended that I took offense at nearly being killed
-Ignore me so studiously (despite beeping horn) that they plainly knew
I was there all along
-Look straight at me then pull out in front of me expecting me to
avoid them.

I'm willing to accept scientifically collected statistics which
indicate that I am incorrect, but until I come across statistics from
a reliable source, I'm going to conclude on the basis of my
observations that the vest makes me less safe. A quickie poll of two
other couriers this morning reached the same verdict.

I like Zebees suggestions, but buying a new bike isn't terribly
practical and I'm a little skeptical about peoples ability to identify
Police high visibility vests without other cues (which might amount to
impersonating a police officer, something I'm not too keen on
attempting)

 

[Rolls eyes.]

Everyone posting here has more than enough experience to know that
accidents are preventable. The truth is, inexperienced as you are,
you are considerably more likely to wind up dead from a perfectly
avoidable accident than anyone that you are presuming to preach to.

 

You seem to imply that church goers can't ride bikes. I've just clocked
190,090 just on my current bike and go to church. You probably complain
about the general public calling riders shit and scum. why do the same
about church goers. yes some bike riders are fuckwits and some church
goers are fuckwits. should we tar all with the same brush?

Smiley.

 

Welcome to harsh week.

 

Please stop thinking about jumping on a young or older person!

Boxer

 

Buy a sidecar, you never hear of anyone getting killed on one of those.

Boxer

 

Of course, no sense in dirtying 2 brushes is there.

Boxer

 

In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:01:36 GMT

Perception vs reality. Every week means 50 a year. Is that true?

IF you are sure it is, then don't do it. You won't like it, you'll be
terrified the whole time. Stay in a car (many more than 1 a week
killed or crippled).

On the other hand, if you want to do it then do it. It can't be made
safe, it can be made safe enough. What "enough" means is up to you.

If you want a guarantee you won't ever be hurt, it isn't available.
Stop driving a car and stay off buses.

If you want one that it's definitely dangerous and you will be hurt,
well you won't get that either.

Do it because it looks like fun. Don't do it because you think you are
some kind of wimp or not man enough or if you don't do it before you
are 40 you have lost.

Do it because it looks like fun. No other reason need apply. Not even
"scooters are cheap" because if you aren't in it for the fun or the
money what are you in it for and the money saved ain't enough to make
up for the mental distress if it's not fun[1].

If it doesn't look like fun then do something that does and forget
about bikes. If it does, then forget about the statistics, because
in the end nothing worth doing is utterly risk free. Not even breathing.

Zebee

[1] Which is why I prefer to cycle uphill in the wet to taking the
train to work! The 'bent is more fun.

 

In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:36:34 GMT

That's because of a sinister conspiracy of outfit pilots to look so
harmless and elderly. THe journos never realise they've been
hypnotised till it's too late.

Zebee

 

Thought about it before hitting the above response - don't have time -
uni starts next week so I'm already up to my eyeballs in readings (and
I'm doing a full time load of subjects on top of a full time job).
Also have just started a new project 4 weeks ago so along with a baby,
spare time is zero.

JL
(have a carbon belly pan and CF hugger for the Raptor still sitting
there unfitted maybe this weekend)